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Reasonable price for puppy?

Hi all: When I last searched for a Hav puppy, we paid about $1700. (maybe a little less). That was four years ago. Highly reputable, experienced breeder, dam/sire were first offspring of champs, their previous two litters had rave reviews and even our crusty, seen-it-all vet pronounces our Little Guy to be "a wonderful dog." Alas, she has retired.

We're now deep in the hunt for a sibling and prices seem higher...$2200-2500? And not even w champs in the line (not that I care, but I'm trying to figure out how breeders reach a price).

Unclear what is realistic these days. Any advice to offer, either through this open forum or direct message?

thanks so much!
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Hi all: When I last searched for a Hav puppy, we paid about $1700. (maybe a little less). That was four years ago. Highly reputable, experienced breeder, dam/sire were first offspring of champs, their previous two litters had rave reviews and even our crusty, seen-it-all vet pronounces our Little Guy to be "a wonderful dog." Alas, she has retired.

We're now deep in the hunt for a sibling and prices seem higher...$2200-2500? And not even w champs in the line (not that I care, but I'm trying to figure out how breeders reach a price).

Unclear what is realistic these days. Any advice to offer, either through this open forum or direct message?

thanks so much!
Pretty much the lowest I know of reputable breeders charging for Havanese puppies these days is $2,000. They range from there to $2,500 for pet puppies (good quality puppies, but should with limited registration... meaning you can't breed them). "Champions in the line" really means nothing. That can be said of almost any Havanese bred in the U.S., including puppy mill dogs. While most reputable breeders show at least some of their dogs, there can be good reasons for not showing others. But you'd want to ask why. We have a good article on how to find a reputable breeder here: Things to Look for in a Reputable Breeder
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Django was $1,500 13 years ago and came from an excellent breeder.
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I paid $1600. to $1800. a little over 2 years ago. I don't remember exactly. But even at that time, there were some breeders asking $2500.
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YIKES. Thanks, all. Certainly price is a factor in our hunt,but with this range, it's hard to know value for money...I want to pay what's fair for an excellent situation but it's hard to tell the difference btw a breeder who charges $1800 and one who asks for $2500. I just don't like feeling as if I've overpaid and been taken advantage of, simply because I'm so eager.

When I mentioned the upper end of these prices to a work colleague who is a dog expert and is himself now beginning the hunt for a Hav pup, he shuddered and said he couldn't imagine paying over $1000 for a puppy.

I have enormous respect for scrupulous, loving breeders; this is hardly a business, I would think, in which folks get rich or even comfortable. For the best ones, who invest so much time (and vet visits!) in the care and tending of the Hav dam/sire and the newbies, plus searching/screening prospective new owners, I understand mounting expense, including shots et al. But as a consumer,I'm also trying to get my head around cost/value. Why does X breeder charge 1800 and Y asks 2500?

Wow. Love is expensive.
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I have a really great breakdown of a breeder's expenses and how the cost of a litter is larger than what buyers pay. I am at work but will post after, as well as the story of how Nino's sire became the priciest puppy possible
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YIKES. Certainly price is a factor in our hunt,
I'm going to disagree with this statement. Finding the right dog for your situation is the only factor that should be important. The right dog is priceless!

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but with this range, it's hard to know value for money...I want to pay what's fair for an excellent situation but it's hard to tell the difference btw a breeder who charges $1800 and one who asks for $2500. I just don't like feeling as if I've overpaid and been taken advantage of, simply because I'm so eager.
Start looking at it from this perspective - value for money is getting the right dog for your situation. $2500 is not too much for the right dog, in fact, $2500 is probably a bargain!

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When I mentioned the upper end of these prices to a work colleague who is a dog expert and is himself now beginning the hunt for a Hav pup, he shuddered and said he couldn't imagine paying over $1000 for a puppy.
If that is your friends price limit, he might want to consider Havanese Rescue. It probably won't be a puppy and the dog may have significant issues to address, but good Havanese are available as rescues.

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I'm not going to say what we paid for Ricky Ricardo because it is irrelevant. We visited the breeder and we and Ricky bonded immediately. We had no idea what his price was. As we were gathering his things to take him home, I asked how much the check should be. I wrote the check on the spot and never gave it a second thought. I would not sell him today for $10K, $100K, or a million dollars. He will NEVER be for sale. Love is priceless! Just be prepared to pay as much as $2500. If your budget is less, there is no shame in that. Let us know what your budget is and the members here may be able to suggest some alternatives for you, perhaps an adult that needs to be re-homed. Ricky Ricardo was 9 months old when we acquired him and it worked out great after some reality checks in the first 3 or 4 months.

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YIKES. Thanks, all. Certainly price is a factor in our hunt,but with this range, it's hard to know value for money...I want to pay what's fair for an excellent situation but it's hard to tell the difference btw a breeder who charges $1800 and one who asks for $2500. I just don't like feeling as if I've overpaid and been taken advantage of, simply because I'm so eager.

When I mentioned the upper end of these prices to a work colleague who is a dog expert and is himself now beginning the hunt for a Hav pup, he shuddered and said he couldn't imagine paying over $1000 for a puppy.

I have enormous respect for scrupulous, loving breeders; this is hardly a business, I would think, in which folks get rich or even comfortable. For the best ones, who invest so much time (and vet visits!) in the care and tending of the Hav dam/sire and the newbies, plus searching/screening prospective new owners, I understand mounting expense, including shots et al. But as a consumer,I'm also trying to get my head around cost/value. Why does X breeder charge 1800 and Y asks 2500?

Wow. Love is expensive.
It is EXPENSIVE to raise quality dogs, and Havanese are likely to have small litters. Litters of 3-5 is probably about average, although, of course there are certainly larger litters. Anyone whi is selling Havanese puppies for $1000 is cutting xorners... no matter what your friend thinks they know. The price difference, from what I've seen are mostly regional. Here in the north east, the prices are usually closer to $2,500, but all the services needed to bring that quality puppy to life. You can certainly travel to an area where the dogs are less expensive... the south or the midwest, but then, depending on where you live, you can incur significant travel expenses. That's not always a bad choice, though, regardless of cost. I flew from MA to NC for two of mine... not based on price, but because it was the breeder I wanted to work with.

I have to be honest with you. i know a number of really excellent breeders and they ALL weed out potential buyers if the first question is price.


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I'm going to disagree with this statement. Finding the right dog for your situation is the only factor that should be important. The right dog is priceless!



Start looking at it from this perspective - value for money is getting the right dog for your situation. $2500 is not too much for the right dog, in fact, $2500 is probably a bargain!



If that is your friends price limit, he might want to consider Havanese Rescue. It probably won't be a puppy and the dog may have significant issues to address, but good Havanese are available as rescues.



I'm not going to say what we paid for Ricky Ricardo because it is irrelevant. We visited the breeder and we and Ricky bonded immediately. We had no idea what his price was. As we were gathering his things to take him home, I asked how much the check should be. I wrote the check on the spot and never gave it a second thought. I would not sell him today for $10K, $100K, or a million dollars. He will NEVER be for sale. Love is priceless! Just be prepared to pay as much as $2500. If your budget is less, there is no shame in that. Let us know what your budget is and the members here may be able to suggest some alternatives for you, perhaps an adult that needs to be re-homed. Ricky Ricardo was 9 months old when we acquired him and it worked out great after some reality checks in the first 3 or 4 months.

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Why Does a QUALITY Puppy Cost So Much?

This was written by the breeder at Burns Gardens (who I believe Dee Dee got Sophie from). Aside from the part where he asserts that established breeders don't really need to show at all, I agree with everything mentioned. I personally feel much more comfortable buying from a breeder who shows most of their dogs to championships. At about $30 a show day plus buying the necessities, training fees, and travel costs, finishing a dog could easily exceed $1000. Nino's breeder likes to go beyond that and put Grands on her dogs.

Now let's talk Nino's sire. He was born via a natural breeding to a dog 7 hours away. They ended up having to drive down twice, though I don't remember why. He was in a bad position in the birthing canal, so he ended up being delivered via c-section...and he was a singleton. She also ended up keeping him in her home and didn't get any money back selling him, so she calls him the most expensive Havanese around.

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