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I would like to start by saying that I don't post very much on here but I read just about everything that I have time to read. I do feel like I know most of you that post often. I really appreciate all of the advice and time you give to inform and try to help everyone who asks for it. Anyway, I don't want to write a long post to explain my whole situation that led up to why I am so mad right now. I am not great at writing and stuff anyway here goes.. I have a great friend that is also my dog's breeder who is wonderful and she is my mentor and everything. Anyway, one of my clients had asked me about this lady that she had went to school with that she ran into that also bred Havanese. Anyway, long story short- my breeder knew this lady and had tried to help her thinking she wanted to do things the right way. She took me over there one day last year to let me see her set up.. Let me just say OMG! She had so many dogs and she was keeping some of them(pups too) in electric fences because she can't contain them, is what she said! I could write a book about the hour or so I was there. She was having my breeder evaluate some of her pups for show. Which she never intended to follow through with showing any of them and she couldn't even tell you the pups mom and dad she had so many. When my breeder would say to me Bogie(My hav) is sooo cute! He just looks like a Havanese which she said made her feel so good about her breeding program. I would think well he is a havanese. But after seeing most of her dogs I can now see why she says that. So after that tramatic experience I have been so sad for all the poor dogs that she has. I even saw her a couple months later in the grocery store buying the biggest bag of the cheapest dog food available. So now the reason I am so mad! She now has a website with tons of pics of cute pups on it saying she does health test and dna?? And she has started to plaster classified ads everywhere. I know she is a nut!! Her dogs are not socialized!! And she has payment plans!! She has even been selling these pups with full registrations so just anyone could breed them too!! Needless to say my breeder and all of the good ones around us shun her and do not have anything to do with her but it is just so frustrating! I am not sure if after saying all that if I'm allowed to say the website or not so I will hold off.. I just wish I could do something! UGH! Thanks for letting me vent!


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Geez, she almost sounds like a puppy mill! I'm sure it's hard to erase those images you saw and I'm sure your heart breaks for the dogs. I wish she could be stopped. The sad part is I'm sure her pups will end up in mills if she is offering full breeding rights. Can you PM me her website? I'm curious.





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Geez, she almost sounds like a puppy mill! I'm sure it's hard to erase those images you saw and I'm sure your heart breaks for the dogs. I wish she could be stopped. The sad part is I'm sure her pups will end up in mills if she is offering full breeding rights. Can you PM me her website? I'm curious.
Yes! I would love to!


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Oh my goodness, that is so sad. My heart breaks when I read about dogs and pups being mistreated. And the electric fences for the puppies--I am assuming it means the pup gets shocked if it touches it. That is outrageous It also worries me because innocent people not 'in the know' are thinking they are getting puppies that have been fed properly, loved and treated well.

Could you send me her link, too. Although I am not currently looking for a pup, it would be just my luck to be duped by her if/when I begin my search.

This is a big fear of mine; if something happened to Dionna (other than old age), I would be out of my mind with grief, which would make me vulnerable to making a bad decision.

I am sorry that you had to witness that. It must have been incredibly heartbreaking.
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If people can't tell just by her website that she is not a good breeder, I give up! So sad for the wee pups.

She says she health tests, but that's probably a lie. Nothing is posted on OFFA site....





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Oh my goodness, that is so sad. My heart breaks when I read about dogs and pups being mistreated. And the electric fences for the puppies--I am assuming it means the pup gets shocked if it touches it.
or the electric fences could be e-collar and under ground wire, which sickens me. I would never ever use such a thing on my dog, IMHO, people that use shock collars on family pets or very small dogs shouldn't own any dogs at all. Especially to contain puppy's.

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Have you considered letting authorities know about this?

http://www.humanesociety.org/forms/t...ill_story.html

Please keep us posted on how it goes.
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or the electric fences could be e-collar and under ground wire, which sickens me. I would never ever use such a thing on my dog, IMHO, people that use shock collars on family pets or very small dogs shouldn't own any dogs at all. Especially to contain puppy's.
No this was an actual electric fence! Her excuse was that all her fencing was destroyed in the tornados we had the previous yr. It had been a yr though! Not enough excuse for me. Yes, when we first arrived one of the pups was playing with a ball that had slipped under the fence and it was trying so hard not to touch the wire when it was pawing at the ball trying to get it back and I didn't understand why and then all the sudden it touched it and yelped and she told us she had to have it that way because they kept climbing out.. This is only one example of what I saw there, it was very tramatic for me to say the least. Sad thing is she really wasn't trying to hide any of this stuff.. So hopefully most people will realize she's nuts.. I just wish this stuff didn't happen but it does and I wish I could do more to stop it.


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Have you considered letting authorities know about this?

http://www.humanesociety.org/forms/t...ill_story.html

Please keep us posted on how it goes.
No, I guess I could try that. I will keep you posted on that! Maybe I could do more! Thanks!


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I don't see why you cant post the name of her web site. That way when people find it their is a chance they will see this trend. Then they can read how to look for a reputable breeder. Its a free country and you can express yourself with out being sewed for slander . I think that's true?. Why feel you need to protect this forum its not a rule we cant post web sites.

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