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Views on the 1 yr. Congential health breederss

Hi guys,

Just wanted some opinions on Breeders who are selling dogs that only guarantee a 1yr. Health warranty. Is this new normal for some breeders now? Also, is it the first year when health problems pop-up for Havaneses?
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I have noticed all sorts of breeder guarantees in my travels on the Internet. Many congenital health problems will show up in the first year, but breeders do not even test a dog's patellas until they are 2 years old. If there is a congenital knee problem (which many health insurers will not cover , or they only cover the first surgery), it would not be covered by a 1 year health guarantee.

You also need to look at what the guarantee will provide the buyer. will the breeder pay for medical bills, or will the breeder offer to replace the dog with another.

Realistically, how many people will be willing to give back a puppy they have fallen for? The only ones I can think of are people who are buying a show prospect with the idea that they would be breeding the dog later.



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Okay, gotta ask. How much are these surgeries, and why would a puppy need more than one for their patella? Do the little puppies knees get that bad?

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I don't know the cost, but some of the other forum members have had them done. The second surgery is on the other knee as there is often a bi-lateral problem with the do's knees.

It is important to protect the puppies from themselves when they are young. They do not know that jumping from a high place can hurt their knees, backs, or hips. That is one of the reasons that agility training with regulation equipment is not recommended until the dogs have finished growing - at about 18 months.

Agility people - please correct me if I am wrong. i do not want to state incorrect information.



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I know the cost of surgeries.....
Bella had a liver shunt. It was discovered when she was 1.5 years old. The breeder gave me 1750.00 back from what I paid for Bella towards her 4000.00 surgery. She also had dental surgery 1000.00.

Fred just had patella surgery. In total it was 4000.00. That is for 1 knee. Seems like 4000.00 is the magic number.....

Be careful when choosing a breeder. Even if you get a name through the HCA ask questions!!! Fred came from a HCA recommended breeder. He was born with bad knees, but I wasn't about to give him back. By the time he actually needed the surgery at 6 plus years old, the breeder wouldn't help at all. Even though she knew his knees were bad when I got him at 13 weeks......buyer beware!





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That's alot. Since I'm getting closer to purchasing I am starting to get more critical about the breeders. Seems like a lot of breeders on the net, are not really worried about testing puppies or some parents.
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They would be the ones to stay away from!





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They would be the ones to stay away from!
YUP!
Good for you doing your research and going about getting a puppy the right way!!! You will be SO thankful long term!!!

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I don't know the cost, but some of the other forum members have had them done. The second surgery is on the other knee as there is often a bi-lateral problem with the do's knees.

It is important to protect the puppies from themselves when they are young. They do not know that jumping from a high place can hurt their knees, backs, or hips. That is one of the reasons that agility training with regulation equipment is not recommended until the dogs have finished growing - at about 18 months.

Agility people - please correct me if I am wrong. i do not want to state incorrect information.
Generally, except for the very large breeds, dogs are physically mature around their first birthday. This is when most agility trainers start them. A year is fine for our little guys.


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