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Don't give up on the bells!! We taught Beau to ring the bells every time we went out -- but for the loooonnnngggest time he: 1) enjoyed ringing the bells; 2) enjoyed getting my attention; 3) thought they were a great toy. Still, he would ring the bells, go outside to play, come back in -- and then pee and poop when he came back inside!!!!! I thought I would be the only one on the planet with a great dog, a smart dog, a joyful and loving agility dog -- who had his inside and outside totally backwards. And then, all of a sudden, around 18 months, he stopped peeing and pooping inside and became really adamant about ringing the bells to go outside to do his business! The only time we have a problem now is when it's raining out. But, we're still working on it.

Don't give up!! And remember, the dog must be old enough to "hold it" before we hold him responsible. If it doesn't work real well for awhile, it's your fault -- not his.



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Don't give up!! And remember, the dog must be old enough to "hold it" before we hold him responsible. If it doesn't work real well for awhile, it's your fault -- not his.
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Great advice Beau and Lorraine. Thank you! I taught him "touch" last night, so that's step one in the bell training I think. Mind you, it's touching the inside of my palm, so I'll have to try and do "touch" with something else before we successfully work the bells. Yeah, he's pretty good about holding his pee, and I can tell when he's anxious to go outside to poop. So I'm not expecting perfection, just hoping to start something early to try and nip accidents in the bud.

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Oscar rings the bells too (with his nose), but it is so faint, that it sounds like his tags! We are now trying to teach him to swat the bells with his paw so that way it will be louder. Good luck- the bell thing is GREAT!
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I use the bells with my boys. And.................Jack fools me a lot! I have been training him to wait also when I know he was just outside. Now, if he is consistently ringing the bell over and over again, that means to get up and take me outside now!

If he rings the bells and I do not act like I am suppose to act and he gets to running frantically with his nose to the ground....that means you better move real fast because if he stops he will go potty in the house.

When I am in the bed. Dexter will paw on the linen to let me know he wants to go outside. Jack will either do a little sniff noise or he will do a little soft bark if he wants to go potty.

You just have to learn to read their body language and listen to their noises, watch their eyes and you will learn a lot! It is really fun learning all this stuff.



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The bells were exactly what the dr. ordered to get Gucci 110% housebroken, and I think its quite common since Havanese aren't notorious barkers that some will just sit there for a minute and expect you to read their minds, lol and if you don't see or realize they are at the door quickly, they'll soon decide to pee in the house somewhere.

I just snapped a pic of our bells, I basically bought some ribbon and bells from Michaels and strung them to the floor, she usually swipes them with her face and she also has this technique of walking into them without walking into the glass (its sort of impressive) lol...

I think this will the answer to your problem! Just when you train, be on the outside with some yummy treats and reward for the bell ringing.

and once they learn it, you'll know because you will have a good 2-3 days of going to let them out the door 2938904 times.. but BE patient and suck it up and open the door a zillion times and know that the constant bell ringing will be short lived.

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I didn't have to train Oreo to let me know when he needs to go. He just sits down in front of me and whines. That's his signal to me he has to go do his business.

I see less of it now because we have him on a schedule.

7:30am - pee
7:45am - eat
9:30am - poop
1:00pm - pee
5:00pm - eat
6:30pm - poop
9:00pm - pee

Having him on a schedule is awesome because it makes planning my days so much easier.

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and once they learn it, you'll know because you will have a good 2-3 days of going to let them out the door 2938904 times.. but BE patient and suck it up and open the door a zillion times and know that the constant bell ringing will be short lived.
Hurray! I'd better wear shoes in the house that day for easy outdoor access. Ya I'm prepared he's going to ring those **** bells over and over. That is, if he wants to go outside...

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I didn't have to train Oreo to let me know when he needs to go. He just sits down in front of me and whines. That's his signal to me he has to go do his business.

I see less of it now because we have him on a schedule.

Having him on a schedule is awesome because it makes planning my days so much easier.
That's pretty amazing! I don't think Freddie is quite able to hold it that long. I just usually take him out every half hour-45 mins or so, or when I see him suddenly get up from a resting position and start to sniff around on the carpet, I know it's time to get moving fast!

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That's pretty amazing! I don't think Freddie is quite able to hold it that long. I just usually take him out every half hour-45 mins or so, or when I see him suddenly get up from a resting position and start to sniff around on the carpet, I know it's time to get moving fast!
Freddie is still a very little baby. It will be a LONG time before you can really count him totally potty trained, even if he learns to ring the bells promptly. And I do have to warn you, not all dogs learn to (or WANT to learn to) ring the bells. Kodi is a very smart dog, but the bells just didn't work for us at all. I tried very consistently, over a very long period of time, to get him to ring the bells, and he never ONCE touched them independently. When it became clear that this system wasn't working for us, AND the bells were doing nothing but scratching my woodwork, I gave up and took them down.

The GOOD news is that he had very few accidents, because we learned his schedule, and got him outside when he needed to go. Better still, eventually, he developed is OWN signal. He goes to the door and gives a single, deep "woof". He doesn't use this same tone of voice for anything else, so it's very clear what he wants. I think that most dogs eventually develop a signal. If you can get your little guy to use the bells, great! But if not, don't despair... he'll eventually find a way to let you know, as long as you are consistent!


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Freddie is still a very little baby. It will be a LONG time before you can really count him totally potty trained, even if he learns to ring the bells promptly. And I do have to warn you, not all dogs learn to (or WANT to learn to) ring the bells. Kodi is a very smart dog, but the bells just didn't work for us at all. I tried very consistently, over a very long period of time, to get him to ring the bells, and he never ONCE touched them independently. When it became clear that this system wasn't working for us, AND the bells were doing nothing but scratching my woodwork, I gave up and took them down.

The GOOD news is that he had very few accidents, because we learned his schedule, and got him outside when he needed to go. Better still, eventually, he developed is OWN signal. He goes to the door and gives a single, deep "woof". He doesn't use this same tone of voice for anything else, so it's very clear what he wants. I think that most dogs eventually develop a signal. If you can get your little guy to use the bells, great! But if not, don't despair... he'll eventually find a way to let you know, as long as you are consistent!
Oh I totally understand that he is still very little and I think considering that fact, he is doing extremely well by way of potty training.

UPDATE: he rang the bells TWICE independently today!! I set them up at noon today. We went outside a couple of times where prompted him to touch his nose to the bells, or I rang them before we went out, and twice so far today he has rung them on his own and waited by the door for us to go outside. I am so proud of him!

I'm glad you and Kodi have a great system worked out

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