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Old 11-17-2012, 05:22 AM   #31
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But*t baths, Nobody told me about butt baths, and they require a lot of grooming, invest in quality brushes and combs, they are picky with food for the most part, and they are a bit OCD and creatures of habit, they like their routine and stick to it, so be careful not to let a bad habit get slipped into their routine,

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What do you mean by butt baths?
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Poop tends to stick to their butts because of their longer hair. Yeah, butt baths...gotta love them. 😉


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Nice!! That's something to look forward to!
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:45 AM   #34
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What do you mean by butt baths?
LOL.. They sometimes tend to poop and get the poop on themselves, their but*ts (asterisk because I can't remember if that word is censored like other cuss words) and poop on the back hind of their legs or tail hair, etc.

I wasn't aware that that would be a chore that came along with owning a havanese, but it is a SMALL price to pay for the love and enjoyment they bring you.

You can cut down on them by trimming the hair back there and by keeping their stools nice and solid, but with Gucci, she will get runny poop if she is anxious or scared, or if I leave her alone for more than an hour, I know I will be dealing with diarrhea when I get home, she's like a dog with IBS / irritable bowel syndrome.

I know you probably did not want to talk about poo when you started this thread, but I was answering your question as best I could, the stuff that only owners could tell you that isn't in the doggie or puppy handbook

When we replaced our kitchen sink, I got one of those faucets that you can pull out and spray and that is great for those beloved butt baths.lol

Also, I think you have to WANT a companion dog, a dog that will follow you around the house and watch you 24/7. If I get up in the middle of the night to go get a drink or to the bathroom, she will get up and follow me, like it is her job to watch me and she's always within ear/sight shot of me.. Every now and then we get a few new owners who are irritated with the level of attention that havanese require, so maybe that is something to be sure that you want that in a pet, for those of us that do love the love, it is great...but I think some people get dogs and want to deal with them just when They feel like dealing with them, and that is not how havanese operate, they want to be involved with the family-pack/ main caretaker, 24/7

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Old 11-17-2012, 09:01 AM   #35
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LOL.. They sometimes tend to poop and get the poop on themselves, their but*ts (asterisk because I can't remember if that word is censored like other cuss words) and poop on the back hind of their legs or tail hair, etc.

I wasn't aware that that would be a chore that came along with owning a havanese, but it is a SMALL price to pay for the love and enjoyment they bring you.

You can cut down on them by trimming the hair back there and by keeping their stools nice and solid, but with Gucci, she will get runny poop if she is anxious or scared, or if I leave her alone for more than an hour, I know I will be dealing with diarrhea when I get home, she's like a dog with IBS / irritable bowel syndrome.

I know you probably did not want to talk about poo when you started this thread, but I was answering your question as best I could, the stuff that only owners could tell you that isn't in the doggie or puppy handbook

When we replaced our kitchen sink, I got one of those faucets that you can pull out and spray and that is great for those beloved butt baths.lol

Also, I think you have to WANT a companion dog, a dog that will follow you around the house and watch you 24/7. If I get up in the middle of the night to go get a drink or to the bathroom, she will get up and follow me, like it is her job to watch me and she's always within ear/sight shot of me.. Every now and then we get a few new owners who are irritated with the level of attention that havanese require, so maybe that is something to be sure that you want that in a pet, for those of us that do love the love, it is great...but I think some people get dogs and want to deal with them just when They feel like dealing with them, and that is not how havanese operate, they want to be involved with the family-pack/ main caretaker, 24/7

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Those are the things I want to know so I can make a educated decision. I want to hear the good, the bad and the gross. Having potty trained three boys, I've done a lot of butt baths in my life. As gross as this sounds, poop doesn't scare me.
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ha ha ha "poop doesn't scare me" .... AWESOME! spoken like a true MOM!

I have to say I have only done a handful of butt baths in our 2 yrs... thank goodness!
throw up on the other hand is a bit more frequent for us.
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Nice!! That's something to look forward to!
It depends somewhat on hair quality and conformation. Kodi hasn't had more than a handful of butt baths in his life, and they were all during a tummy bug he got.
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Only a few butt baths here; maybe 4-5x total and my guy is almost 3. It's not that frequent for me.

Along the they're your shadow comment:
I had a friend who has a small dog (good buddy of Marlowe's) watch Marlowe for 2 days. Marlowe knows and loves her and her dog. She was really concerned that he wouldn't eat/inhale his food, that his stool was loose, and that he followed her everywhere ("if you die young, it's going to be because you trip over your dog"). I had a devil of a time convincing her it was all normal for him. He's an emotional eater and pooper; if I'm not around or if there was a long car ride or something upset his routine, he'll skip a meal or two and might have loose stool. He goes back to normal and doesn't seem worse for wear. For someone who has a dog that will anxiously barf if his dinner is more than 10 mins late and loose stool = infectious disease, Marlowe's habits were incomprehensible to her. And the shadowing, she was quite a bit disconcerted by it and didn't really get that it was normal for the breed.

So while I love my dog and think he's nothing but perfect, her perspective showed me an 'outsider's' take on the Hav personality. Mine's sensitive and raising my voice is/was completely counterproductive as a puppy. No separation anxiety, but I think that's headed off by having a cat friend when we're gone. And grooming, it's time consuming and I don't keep up with it enough. Daily brushing, baths 7-10 days are ideal;minor grooming on your own (for me it's keeping his feet tidy, abdomen & sanitary area shaved down) will cut down on professional grooming costs.
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It depends somewhat on hair quality and conformation. Kodi hasn't had more than a handful of butt baths in his life, and they were all during a tummy bug he got.

That's a bit passive, aggressive...I really don't think that Gucci has 'bad genes', she has a nice line and was scored very highly when I had her evaluated by the person who evaluates for the Silk Dogs a few years back at one of the Yearly shows they had, the first one, actually...she met the qualifications for us to join if we had chosen to..

All I know is when she gets upset in her head, her gut gets upset, too..happens to some of us humans, I don't think its bad hair or genes, maybe not cutting the hair down enough down there..

Also, I guess since I live near a beach, we do have more wind and if the wind is blowing, the fur from her long tail hair just blows in the way and that can get even solid stools to stick a wee bit when the wind blows...

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That's a bit passive, aggressive...I really don't think that Gucci has 'bad genes', she has a nice line and was scored very highly when I had her evaluated by the person who evaluates for the Silk Dogs a few years back at one of the Yearly shows they had, the first one, actually...she met the qualifications for us to join if we had chosen to..

All I know is when she gets upset in her head, her gut gets upset, too..happens to some of us humans, I don't think its bad hair or genes, maybe not cutting the hair down enough down there..

Also, I guess since I live near a beach, we do have more wind and if the wind is blowing, the fur from her long tail hair just blows in the way and that can get even solid stools to stick a wee bit when the wind blows...

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Sorry, Kara, I CERTAINLY wasn't suggesting that ANY dog here had "bad genes", and my comment most definitely wasn't pointed at Gucci or any other single dog. And even among Silks, (or silky coated Havanese) there is a great variation in hair... maybe I should have said "texture" rather than "quality". I wasn't talking about quality as in better or worse, rather that every one and everyTHING has different "qualities" that make them what they are. Many people who show their Havs want very dense undercoats. These are likely to catch poop more easily, just because they are so thick, and their owners CERTAINLY wouldn't consider them "lesser quality". (neither, it appears, do the judges!)

Likewise, I wasn't suggesting that BAD conformation leads to the need for more butt baths (though it could, of course) only that DIFFERENT conformation (and they are ALL different) can add to the problem.

I was only trying to point out that while SOME Havanese seem to need frequent butt baths, there are many, even those kept in long coat, who don't.

You've pointed out that Gucci has more trouble if she gets anxious, as have a couple of other people. That, obviously is another factor.

I just don't want the OP to think that ALL Havanese (even those in long coat) need regular butt baths, because, like temperament, conformation, hair TEXTURE, etc., it is very variable.

My post was definitely NOT meant to be aggressive, passive or otherwise, and I'm sorry you took it that way.
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