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This election scares me

9K views 102 replies 31 participants last post by  atsilvers27 
#1 ·
I've always felt that even if my candidate didn't win we would be fine and life would go on as usual. I don't feel that way this time. We are either going to go back to being a capitalist nation that rewards hard work or we are going to move farther towards the failed Europeon socialist welfare state model. We are either going to work for a living or vote for a living. This is the most important election of our lifetime so please get out and vote. Unless, of course, you are voting for what will be four years worse than the last four.
 
#7 ·
Oh no! I learned 4 years ago not to talk about politics, religion or dog food on a dog forum!

My lips are sealed this time around.
I agree, although I didn't learn it from the forum - but just from life in general. Just got back from spending a few days with my dad, and he started in - our views are pretty much polar opposite. I finally had to tell him that it was better that we didn't go there - I didn't want to end up on his $#@* list! :pound: I guess I did learn about dog food on the forum though, and pretty much just keep my mouth shut about that these days too! :biggrin1:
 
#14 ·
But this is the Coffee Shop forum and with a thread name like "This election scares me" which is a pretty obvious subject matter, can't those of you not interested in discussing politics just not participate? You don't even have to open the thread for heavens sake. I think kawboy stated it very well and I totally agree also.
Monica, Dooley & Roxie
 
#11 ·
Seeing the state you live in my guess is you have some opinions about Romney. Here in Michigan we have a strange dynamic. The lower penninsula is heavy democratic while the upper penninsula where I live is much more conservative. It's like a blue and red state mixed in one. Polls show Romney even with Obama here which is shocking if it's true. I think welfare is the biggest "employer" in the lower penninsula.
 
#12 ·
Guys this is really not the time or is it fun to get in a big political argument, there are members who are dealing with a huge national disaster. This is a forum about our cute pups that mostly make us forget the harshness of everyday life and help to make life light. Politics are very ugly this time around many on here do not share the same views and we don't need to, I would like to see this forum remain civil.
 
#13 ·
Might I suggest that you try one of the political sites, you can let off steam by choosing one with your beliefs, or you can sink your teeth in to the opposite thinkers, these sites exist just for that purpose. Personally I am having a hard time not responding to many of my relatives that are using my facebook to try to push their agenda, I bet there are members here that are trying to deal with the same.
 
#15 ·
It just is not fair to taint the forum with an election debate...it will only bring out strong feelings that will not change the election one way or the other. The Coffee Shop has often been used for telling about our families, sharing sorrows and happiness. There are other forums that are just for your political views.

On a personal note I come here to share, laugh, and to discuss everything Havanese and dog in general, I like hearing about everyones families etc., politics are something I am trying to avoid and coming here lets me do it.
 
#17 ·
I have to say, I'd prefer not to have politics on the forum too. We have members from other countries, for whom this is of little-no interest, except that it shows the worst side of us as Americans.

I hate to say it, but listening to some people's views on politics ends up tainting my feelings about them too. I see all kinds of stuff every day on FB, it has been SO refreshing to come to the forum and know that it was a safe aven from all of that. Let's just leave it be.
 
#19 ·
In Britain we are very interested in your politics,as they affect us greatly.I have no wish to get anyones back up,but I thought you might be interested to hear how the vast majority of Brits feel about your 2 candidates.Let me know if you want to hear how Brits feel.
 
#20 ·
I have family living in Grt. Britain, please tell us how you feel after...it will just get people started. I have family in France and they always want to know all the salacious gossip...who got caught with their pants down, they can go on for hours about it, and how much more civil the French are. They amuse me when they are not annoying me. Really this election is not putting our best face forward so lets not go there.

I come here to smile, laugh, and sometimes share the sad times with others who are as dog nutty as I.
 
#22 ·
Really we should be talking about our dogs and finding out how people are doing after Sandy. All that will happen is people will get mad and then there will be hurt feelings...the fall out from that takes a toll and is just not worth it and it's not fair to subject the forum members to more of the same.
 
#24 ·
I agree that knowing that people have radically different political views from mine makes me not even want to know what they think about dogs, or anything else, for that matter. It scares and angers me to think that people would even consider voting for Romney, who I feel is a pathetic candidate with no integrity whatsoever. And if you're interested, almost the entire world fervently hopes that he doesn't win. It is ridiculous to think that Obama is anything near a socialist, more like centrist or slightly to the right of that, and I don't have to guess where you get your "news". I do agree with the people who said that this is an open thread and that people don't have to read it if they don't want to, and I will not apologize to anyone who is offended by my views. Well, maybe eventually I will forget the names of the people who I think are beyond the pale politically, so that I can again read what you have to say about dogs some day. But not right now.
 
#25 ·
We really don't need this. Coffee shop is for personal things one might want to share, but not politics....this is a dog forum. Dogs don't vote. It is not a rule, it would be a nice gesture to this keep this forum non political. Many of us are trying to tune it out.
I personally don't want to see people leave the forum when passions are incited,feelings are hurt, or people become angry and leave the forum. This is just not the appropriate venue for political discussion.
 
#26 ·
I do see your point, Robbie, but I also think that when someone sees the topic heading "This election scares me" it is obvious what it is about. If anyone doesn't want to get into politics on here, they should not read a post like that. If these kind of opinions were inserted into another topic, that would be different. I also think that if someone is going to start a topic like this, they shouldn't be surprised if they get some blowback!
-- Eileen
 
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#30 ·
As I see one can only try to keep the toxic out of something fun, many Americans have already voted. So now I will question why I even care, as people seem to want to taint even light hearted things, again my point all along this is not a policital blog or forum, it is to share the love of the Havanese.
 
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