Ingesting human medications - Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums
 22Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 09:34 AM Thread Starter
Arf! Arf!
 
Ricky Ricardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Southern California & Baja California
Posts: 1,606
Submit Photo: 4
Photo Submissions 34 Times in 34 Posts
Ingesting human medications

Ricky lives up to his nickname "travesura" (mischief maker) on a daily basis. I currently take 400mg of Ibuprofen gel cap 3 times a day. I am supposed to take it with food. Last night I put a capsule on the dining table and then walked to the kitchen to get my plate of supper, about 15 feet away which is open to the dining area. As soon as I picked up my plate with the dining table behind me, Momi says, "What is that red thing Ricky has in his mouth?" I turned around and looked in horror! Ricky had my capsule in his mouth!!!!!!!! I shouted the "drop it" command and he dutifully did so immediately. I inspected the capsule and it was fully intact. I cannot figure out how he could jump on a dining chair and up on the table and find the capsule so quickly and so stealthily! But disaster averted!

Okay, here is my question for you medical professionals. What if Ricky had ingested 400mg of Ibuprofen? What would you do?
- Take him to the Vet and have his stomach pumped
- Give him a tablespoon of Hydrogen Peroxide and hope to make him vomit it
- Ignore it. A little Ibuprofen doesn't hurt a small dog.
- Something else?

I really wouldn't have known what to do and would have panicked had he swallowed it. This Havatroublemaker is valuable to us, but obviously we need to pay more attention to what he is up to!

Ricky's Popi

Tigerlily's Welcome to the Jungle (Ricky Ricardo) (AKC titles) CGC, BN

Ricky Ricardo is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 10:00 AM
Dave T
 
davetgabby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 10,726
Submit Photo: 3
Photo Submissions 112 Times in 110 Posts
yeah my wife is good at dropping pills. Here is some info
How to Induce Pet Vomiting, in Case They Sample a Poison
Ricky Ricardo likes this.

Dave and Molly
Ian Dunbar was awarded the Outstanding Achievement Award from I.P.D.T.A. Here's a picture of me accepting the award on his behalf.
Member of IAABC ,International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants , Member of Pet Professional Guild
davetgabby is offline  
post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 10:07 AM
Dave T
 
davetgabby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 10,726
Submit Photo: 3
Photo Submissions 112 Times in 110 Posts
Human Medications Poisonous to Pets - Meds Toxic to Dog and Cats
Ricky Ricardo likes this.

Dave and Molly
Ian Dunbar was awarded the Outstanding Achievement Award from I.P.D.T.A. Here's a picture of me accepting the award on his behalf.
Member of IAABC ,International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants , Member of Pet Professional Guild
davetgabby is offline  
 
post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 10:46 AM
Metrowest, MA
 
krandall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,463
Submit Photo: 6
Photo Submissions 296 Times in 294 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky Ricardo View Post
Ricky lives up to his nickname "travesura" (mischief maker) on a daily basis. I currently take 400mg of Ibuprofen gel cap 3 times a day. I am supposed to take it with food. Last night I put a capsule on the dining table and then walked to the kitchen to get my plate of supper, about 15 feet away which is open to the dining area. As soon as I picked up my plate with the dining table behind me, Momi says, "What is that red thing Ricky has in his mouth?" I turned around and looked in horror! Ricky had my capsule in his mouth!!!!!!!! I shouted the "drop it" command and he dutifully did so immediately. I inspected the capsule and it was fully intact. I cannot figure out how he could jump on a dining chair and up on the table and find the capsule so quickly and so stealthily! But disaster averted!

Okay, here is my question for you medical professionals. What if Ricky had ingested 400mg of Ibuprofen? What would you do?
- Take him to the Vet and have his stomach pumped
- Give him a tablespoon of Hydrogen Peroxide and hope to make him vomit it
- Ignore it. A little Ibuprofen doesn't hurt a small dog.
- Something else?

I really wouldn't have known what to do and would have panicked had he swallowed it. This Havatroublemaker is valuable to us, but obviously we need to pay more attention to what he is up to!

Ricky's Popi
Since we have also been through this with Kodi when he was an adolescent, here is what the vet hospital told me (and this is true whether it is a drug the dog has ingested or some other, possibly toxic substance):

Call the local vet or ER immediately. Have the bottle in your hand, if possible. They can determine if the dose of many common drugs is toxic or not, depending on the weight of your dog. If they DON'T know, they will refer you to animal poison control (or they will call for you) There is a charge for this call, but it's pretty reasonable... I think $40 or so?

Based on what the vet/ER or Poison control say, you will know your next steps. For some things, especially if the dog has JUST swallowed it, hydrogen peroxide to get them to vomit it up may be in order. But DON'T do this unless they tell you. Somethings can do more harm on the way up. Otherwise, they will probably want your dog at the ER (or vets office, but MY dogs ONLY get in trouble when the vet's office is closed ! They may need to pump the dog's stomach with activated charcoal, and, depending on the amount and toxin ingested, the dog may need other supportive care afterwards.

Some tips for hydrogen peroxide... (ask me how I know )

1. It MUST be an UNOPENED bottle, and it has to be more than 6 months old. Hydrogen peroxide is very unstable, and just reverts to water... the extra oxygen molecule flies away. If it's not fresh, it doesn't matter HOW much you pur down your dog, it won't make them vomit.

2. Don't try to force it directly into the dog. You and the dog and the kitchen will wear LOTS of it... very little will get in the dog. Put the recommended dose (the vet or Poison control will tell you how much) in a small amount of milk, and they will lap it right up out of a saucer. Don't worry about whether the milk agrees with your dog (unless they have a TRUE allergy, which is extremely rare)... it's not going to stay in the dog long anyway!

3. It's the bubbles formed by the hydrogen peroxide that make the dog vomit. For it to work, the hydrogen peroxide needs something to react with (food) and to be shaken up. If the dog doesn't omit on their own, try feeding them a piece of bread, then engage them in an active game... fetch, tug, whatever will get them moving. This usually does the trick.

4. If that fails, it's definitely off to the vet or ER... They can give the dog an injection which will make them vomit quite quickly.

Assuming the dog has vomited to offending substance, you've got to decided, with the help of the vet, whether you've gotten enough out of the dog. Can't help you there... it will depend on what it was, and how long the dog has had to digest it, and how quickly it falls apart when wet.

But the bottom line is, except for the "tips" about how to get the hydrogen peroxide to work best, I would not do ANY of this without being in touch with the vet at the same time. Particularly with our very small dogs.


Karen, Kodi, Pixel and Panda
(ARCHMX Starborn Kodak Moment CGC, NTD, BN, PCD, NA, NAJ, CDX-CCH, RE, RLV, RL1X3, RL2X4, RL3X3...
plus Starborn's Picture Perfect & Nauti Herd Compact Flash RN, CGC, NTD, SN-C, RL1)






krandall is offline  
post #5 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
Arf! Arf!
 
Ricky Ricardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Southern California & Baja California
Posts: 1,606
Submit Photo: 4
Photo Submissions 34 Times in 34 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by krandall View Post
1. It MUST be an UNOPENED bottle, and it has to be more than 6 months old.
I think you mean "LESS than 6 months old"?

Gracias, Ricky's Popi
Sheri and krandall like this.

Tigerlily's Welcome to the Jungle (Ricky Ricardo) (AKC titles) CGC, BN

Ricky Ricardo is offline  
post #6 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 12:59 PM
Metrowest, MA
 
krandall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,463
Submit Photo: 6
Photo Submissions 296 Times in 294 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky Ricardo View Post
I think you mean "LESS than 6 months old"?

Gracias, Ricky's Popi
Of course! Fine whiskey does well aged... Hydrogen peroxide... not so much!
Pucks104 likes this.


Karen, Kodi, Pixel and Panda
(ARCHMX Starborn Kodak Moment CGC, NTD, BN, PCD, NA, NAJ, CDX-CCH, RE, RLV, RL1X3, RL2X4, RL3X3...
plus Starborn's Picture Perfect & Nauti Herd Compact Flash RN, CGC, NTD, SN-C, RL1)






krandall is offline  
post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 01:27 PM Thread Starter
Arf! Arf!
 
Ricky Ricardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Southern California & Baja California
Posts: 1,606
Submit Photo: 4
Photo Submissions 34 Times in 34 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by krandall View Post
Fine whiskey does well aged...
Agreed, but so early on a Friday afternoon?

Ricky's Popi
krandall likes this.

Tigerlily's Welcome to the Jungle (Ricky Ricardo) (AKC titles) CGC, BN

Ricky Ricardo is offline  
post #8 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 02:58 PM
Metrowest, MA
 
krandall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,463
Submit Photo: 6
Photo Submissions 296 Times in 294 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky Ricardo View Post
Agreed, but so early on a Friday afternoon?

Ricky's Popi
Hey, we're in the middle of a snow storm. You are ALWAYS allowed to drink during snow storms. The time of day is irrelevant!!!
Pucks104 likes this.


Karen, Kodi, Pixel and Panda
(ARCHMX Starborn Kodak Moment CGC, NTD, BN, PCD, NA, NAJ, CDX-CCH, RE, RLV, RL1X3, RL2X4, RL3X3...
plus Starborn's Picture Perfect & Nauti Herd Compact Flash RN, CGC, NTD, SN-C, RL1)






krandall is offline  
post #9 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
Arf! Arf!
 
Ricky Ricardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Southern California & Baja California
Posts: 1,606
Submit Photo: 4
Photo Submissions 34 Times in 34 Posts
A shot of fine Scotch with a Hydrogen Peroxide chaser is called a Spewing Volcano! Will warm the heart on a snowy afternoon!

I am sitting here looking out on the Mar de Cortez. 80F and bright sunny cloudless sky. Cocktail party at 6pm to toast the sunset and another relaxing day. Then candle light dinner after with friends while being serenaded by a duo performing classical Spanish music. You know who is not invited and is going to be very disappointed and unhappy with his Momi and Popi!

Ricky's Popi
krandall and Heather's like this.

Tigerlily's Welcome to the Jungle (Ricky Ricardo) (AKC titles) CGC, BN

Ricky Ricardo is offline  
post #10 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-05-2016, 03:30 PM
Metrowest, MA
 
krandall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,463
Submit Photo: 6
Photo Submissions 296 Times in 294 Posts
Well, we've had a really mild winter, with nothing we can really complain about. The snow has stopped, and it is really pretty out now. By the morning it will be all cleaned up!

But I DO love Mexico. Haven't been to that part, but would love to spend more time there! I think, when people want a "foreign vacation" they do themselves a disservice when they dismiss our northern AND southern neighbors!


Karen, Kodi, Pixel and Panda
(ARCHMX Starborn Kodak Moment CGC, NTD, BN, PCD, NA, NAJ, CDX-CCH, RE, RLV, RL1X3, RL2X4, RL3X3...
plus Starborn's Picture Perfect & Nauti Herd Compact Flash RN, CGC, NTD, SN-C, RL1)






krandall is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome