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Screeched when pooped

Gang please forgive me for not looking up absesses. Our computer died and i am not that nimble on my phone.

Dh reports that Jasper screamed today during his biz. He said a real screech. At first he thought it was because it was attatched. But his rectom is really red and protruding. Is this what AG abcess looks like? He seeems fine now. In fact pooped 2 more times. My reg vet cannot see him til tomorrow and the office is jam packed. But they could fit me in with a vet I do not know tonight. Should wait or not? Again... He seems ok now.




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Missy, I hope it is nothing serious. One time Benji screeched was when he was a puppy and had chewed on a twig in the yard. While passing a little piece of it, it really bothered him and he had tiny bit of blood too. Perhaps, it is as simple as something hard and sharp that bothered Jasper too.

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Oh, dear. I hope someone with more knowledge than I have answers you soon. It is so hard to know what to do. But, maybe this would be such a plain, obvious answer to the vet that even one that you don't know could be trusted to check him out. If it turned out serious you could have your regular vet follow him.

Another thought, could he have been constipated, and now it passed?

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edited: turns out this info was for cats. I don't know if it is different for dogs -- I am going to keep looking a few more minutes.

Missy,

It could be an anal or a rectum prolapse. If it's an anal prolapse, it will probably be just a very small amount of red protuding and yes you need to see a vet to confirm the cause as to whether it is parasitic, infectious, or dietary in nature.

If there is more tissue protuding (like a tube of tissue), then it could be a rectum prolapse and you need to see a vet right away since this is life threatening b/c if there is much tissue protuding, then that rectum tissue will die, causing the animal to die. If there is much tissue protuding, then call the vet you are familiar with and tell them what it is and see if they can't fit you in and what advice. I don't have any personal experience with this, and I didn't read the time frame involved before needing to get the tissue back in.

Here is a site with more info:
http://www.vetinfo.com/cencyclopedia/ceprolapse.html

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More reading I found that actual rectum prolapse (where tissue is protuding) is rare in dogs, but usually felt to be caused by parasites when it does happen. Dogs do not get hemorrhoids, so if any tissue is actually protruding out of the rectum (versus the rectum area being swollen), then it is important to see a vet quickly. Keep the area wet with a warm washcloth and do not let the dog lick it. Keeping the tissues moist will help to keep it alive.

Having said all that, it is probably either an anal prolapse (not as life threatening) or some type of abcess. Still important to see the vet as soon as you can.

I didn't say all that above to scare you, I think it is unlikely that it is the serious version; however, just in the rare case it was, I needed to mention it so if you really did see actual tissue sticking out you would know to get to the vet right away versus waiting till tonight or tomorrow.

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Chaza thank you for this. Thank god there is no tissue protruding. Everything is in tact just an outey as opposed to an in-ey to use the belly button ref.
But he does have the fishy smell and the vet reccommended joy compresses. So I thought I would combine hot compress with a but bath. He seemed to love the compress and the massage with the shampoo. But when i went to rinse and held his tail up he yelped again.




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Wow - that sounds scary and pretty serious. If it were me, I would make a pretty big issue with the vet and see if there is ANY way they can fit him in. If that's just not possible, I would take him to the other vet who can see him. Just my opinion, but that would really scare me!

I really do hope it's nothing serious, please keep us posted.
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Missy, I hope Jasper's okay. I wish I had knowledge about this, but I don't. Marble has yelped a few times, but it was nothing serious. I hope it's nothing serious.
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Whew, Missy, so glad to hear this. I am guessing since you haven't actually squeezed the glands, then they are still full. So, when you went to rinse him off, and pulled his tail up, this actually causes the sacs to move into another position. This moves them closer to the opening, and is what you want to do when expressing them. Since they are likely still full, and they got 'moved', then this caused extra discomfort and caused him to yelp again. I am going to guess that they are so full that it will be harder to empty. I guess you don't do this regularly, so it might be better to let the vet do it, since they are so full.

Now, if you continue to do the warm compresses, and they naturally express, would you let me know? I have to do my guys regularly, and when they get super full, it is hard to do, so I might need to start doing the compresses. Do you just wet a dedicated washcloth, and warm it in the microwave to do this?
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Ouch hope he is o.k. Is the area around the rectum also red and swollen? That is what Gitter had and he had to go to the vet to have it drained. Are the compresses working in draining the area? You don't want the abcess to rupture because that can cause long term problems.
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Chaza, we actually take him to the vet to be expressed once a month to once every two months-- we let his scooting let us know. We have had him express when he is scared all over our house. (yuck)... so we like to to keep them on the empty side. Plus he hates it when they are full...he mopes and retreats and gets depressed His glands are higher than normal so the high fiber diet does not work for him. So we think it better to express often then to risk having them get impacted. But this is the first time he has ever screeched. Since he was in the sink I just used a paper towel with the hottest water from the sink. I will let you know.




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