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Hi everyone-
I have been MIA for awhile, extremely busy.

I thought I would post my problem with Harry.
He is constantly itching anymore.
He has some small red spots, here n there.
Sometimes his ear flaps are red/hot ( NOT INFECTED)
And he scratches/bites from head to toe, including his feet.
So, with that said, lets say it is NOT a food allergy, then what shampoos, ointments, drugs, supplements, treatments have you used on your dogs problem skin?
Can you please give name, place where purchased and type of problem(s) it helped?

He was a year old october 15.
His skin has no flakiness.
Harry had been on Wellness core ( grain free, protein based) fish, and then I did switch him to wellness with grains fish, and am now switching him back to core fish. To try and rule out the food as the issue.
He did have a medicated bath at a groomers which did not help.
He does not appear to have any evidence of fleas.
He does not wear a flea/tick colar or have any spot on treatment.
His shampoos have been ones I have used before on him with no problems.
I tried Benadryl but didn't really seem to do much.
His belly doesn't have any hotspots, he is starting to get a few small dot type scabs towards the ends of the underside of his ears.
I hate seeing him constantly at himself

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Our sheltie has the same problem and we took her to our vet who sent us to a dermatologist. She is on medication which does help. She is allergic to the environment...grass, trees, etc. Let's see, is there a bubble for a dog to live in???
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Our sheltie has the same problem and we took her to our vet who sent us to a dermatologist. She is on medication which does help. She is allergic to the environment...grass, trees, etc. Let's see, is there a bubble for a dog to live in???
What medication and what were the results of the medication?

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Could he have earmites or something going on in his ears? Is this the main area he is itching.

Isabelle has had bad fall environmental allergies since we moved to SC (I go through this and now my husband was just diagnosed with seasonal asmtha as well!). My vet was the first to offer shots but I wanted to avoid that if possible. She gets itchy as soon as she comes back in from going outside and she itches her back like crazy. So I actually cut down her back given her benadryl for kids and have used hydrocortisone spray for dogs that I got from the vet and an alternative that I like as well has been colloidal silver spray. Those have been able to stop hot spots thus far and she is back to doing a lot better. She now actually likes the sprays too, I think she has finally realized their effect.

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He is irritated from head to toe, so wouldn't ear mites be just in the ears and they would be dirty?
He is starting little scabs on the tips of his ears and will once it a while shake his head, but I thought he would need to have dirty ears too.
I was thinking of doing the spot on REVOLUTION. Covers mange mites fleas ticks, etc.

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Scudder get this too. Fred has a couple scabs from time to
time. My guys are always on some kind of flea and tick control even in the winter. My vet told me it was a staff infection and it took over 2 weeks of antibiotics to clear. I wasn't convinced that was the proper cure. He still gets scabs from time to time. In fact, both my boys have some now. I really think it's an allergy to the high grasses they come onto contact with on our hike. I tried benadryl or maybe it was bactine ointment applied right to the scab. That's cleared them up pretty fast. Might be worth a try!






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Did your vet do a scraping for Demodectic Mange? It starts as little red bumps and then can bloom into something more severe. 99% of all dogs carry the mite that causes this. Some dogs will have just mild irritations at different times.

The site below site has the severe cases but some good info.

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/demodectic_mange.html

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I wouldn't use any sort of a spot-on flea/tick treatment if he has open sores or raw areas on his skin. I would think that could cause even more problems.

We had a cocker spaniel that had a terrible time with skin problems/allergies. Have you checked for any sort of a yeasty smell from his ears? Magic would get yeast infections inside his ears. We got drops from the vet for that. We finally discovered that part of his problem was the systemic flea medication he was on (Program) and the rest was other allergens. The vet gave him a two week course of low dose steroids (prednisone) and took him off the Program and put him on a grain free diet and supplemented with Linatone. This took care of his skin problems fully, as long as we watched him close. If he showed any signs of a hot spot, we immediately treated it with sulfodene spray. This seemed to stop them in their tracks for him.

I really would take him to the vet first to get their thoughts and maybe some immediate relief for him. You don't want secondary infections cropping up.

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I've never seen a skin irritation that this stuff won't fix-from a hotspot on one of our farm dog's legs to a place on a Scientist friend's arm that had been treated by two different Dermatologists with no success and was over a year old.

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I think the first thing you need to determine is if it's a food allergy or airborne allergy. Definitely sounds like some type of allergy.

Do you find Harry is chewing/licking the tops of his paws or licking the pads? Is he scratching his muzzle at all? Is he primarily just scratching his ears and sides?

If he is licking/chewing the tops of his paws and not really scratching his muzzle, then I would say it sounds more like an airborne allergy, ex grass, pollen, ragweed, dust mites. If he seems to be licking the pads of his paws and scratching his muzzle or even rubbing his face into the carpet quite a bit, then I would guess that it's food related. Ear infections are also quite common with food allergies.

My guys are both allergic to beef. Within hours of feeding them beef, the scratching turns up and I can see them licking the bottoms of the pads.

I would first try to rule out food but moving to a single source protien. Fish is good but you need to see what else is in the food. Try to move away from any grains.

It could take up to 3 months to see an improvement. You also need to look at what treats you are giving. YOu need to be diligent. Once you do that for a few months then you'll get a better idea. If the scratching doesn't stop, then I'd do an allergy test.

You also need to track if there are times when you notice the scratching increases or decreases. I just went through all this so know how difficult it is.

Chances are if your parents never had kids...you won't either...
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