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Bilateral Medial Patellar Subluxation

Hello All,

I am looking for some input and/or advice on this subject. It seems my little Leela, 14 months old, has this condition. The vet, who is an orthospedic specialist, has rated her right hind leg at 2, her left at 1. Next step is x-rays to confirm his diagnosis and if he is correct, his recommendation is for surgery.

I am sitting here stunned as I'd hope when I took her in for her sporadic limping that it was a bruise or a strained muscle...but instead we are looking at major surgery and 8 weeks in a crate to heal afterward.

So...I guess I am asking for anyone's input on this. I am requesting a referral for a second opinion, that is certain. But if surgery is indicated...have you or anyone you know had a dog go through this? Was it successful? Has this discussion happened on this forum before and if so, could you help me find it?

I will be contacting the breeder once this is confirmed. Hopefully she will stop breeding Leela's parents. Any comforting words you can share would help sooth this pet mommy's very sad heart.

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I don't know too much about this subject, but I know Linda (Lfung5) had similar problems with Freddie. I am going to call her and tell her to comment on this post for you. She did not chose to do the surgery with Freddie. Instead, she started supplements and he is just fine. My Dugan has luxating patellas, but his are a lower grade and don't seem to bother him at all. I would certainly get a second opinion and start supplements to see if that helps. I think glucosemine is the one that my vet recommended for Dugan.

I am sorry you have to go through this! Hugs to you and Leela.


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I am sorry to hear about Leela. Freddie has luxating patellas. Is that the same thing? I urge you not to take this guys opinion to do surgery. Fred has a 2 on one leg and a 3.5 on the other. The only time it was noticeable, was when he slipped on the tile and tore stuff. My vet told me 2 weeks crate rest. That was years ago and Fred is fine now. He has not had an episode in years. He hikes for miles a day and runs and jumps. My vet cautioned me about surgery happy orthopedic surgeons. I took fred to one of the best surgeons, and he advised me not to do surgery. He told me to mark on the calender each day fred held his leg up. When he has 16 bad days, that's when to do surgery. You can also give chondroitin and glucosamine. That will help strengthen the ligaments arount the knee. Good luck!





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Yes...luxating patellas would be the same thing.

Thank you both so very much! I have started both my dogs (they have the same parents) on glucosamine chondroitin with yucca (supposedly a natural anti-inflamatory)...and I think we will crate her for a while too. That sounds very good to me.

I like what your surgeon said about marking the calendar. I'll do that too. I think it's been three or four times so far.

If anyone else has experience with this...I would appreciate your input as well.

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My vet told us that both of Pixie's legs have this, and pretty severely. He put her on Cosequin daily for life. As far as surgery, he said don't jump the gun, let's wait and see. That was almost a year ago and so far so good. I have never seen her limping or favoring a leg, but I do notice that I can hear her knees popping when I pick her up. I read somewhere on the forum about a raw diet also being beneficial for this.

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Thank you for weighing in. Can you tell me what Cosequin is? Is that an anti-inflamatory or analgesic?

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My vet told us that both of Pixie's legs have this, and pretty severely. He put her on Cosequin daily for life. As far as surgery, he said don't jump the gun, let's wait and see. That was almost a year ago and so far so good. I have never seen her limping or favoring a leg, but I do notice that I can hear her knees popping when I pick her up. I read somewhere on the forum about a raw diet also being beneficial for this.



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Has she always limped or did something happened to trigger it? Freddie would limp occasionally, but it wasn't until he slipped that it was constant. The 2 week strict crate rest worked wonders! He was only allowed out to potty and I had to carry him! My Freddie was also on the raw diet when this occured and is actually back on it as of last week.





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Joellyn, I am so sorry to hear about this. I really like the advice you have been given. I want to say tho, two days ago my furkids were at the groomers getting their nails cut. There was a year old hav puppy there and the groomer told me that the puppy had had knee surgery on both legs. It took only 10 days to recover before it was walking again! I was amazed. The surgeon must have been excellent or it was a different condition?
Anyway, I pray that your baby gets along with no surgery at all, but if it does end up having to have it someday, maybe it won't be too hard.
I do hope the breeder discontinues the breeding though!

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I'm sorry to hear leela has luxating patellas. Some of the other forum member here have experience dealing with this. They are graded in four grades with 1 and 2 being the lower end of the scale. I'm surprised your vet is already talking surgery at this point. You can sarch luxatign patellas and find lots of information on it but here are a couple links to get you started. The first is OFA's site and it goes into depth on the four grade levels

http://www.offa.org/patluxgrade.html

The next had interesting information about hapfway down the page on natural ways to treat them

http://www.thewholedog.org/artPatella.html

I hope this helps!

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Welcome to the forum. You may want to get a second opinion as I have always heard surgery is a last resort and generally with dogs with a grading above 2 on the patellas.

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