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Color Dilute Alopecia in blue pigment

Results are in on the first reported blue Havanese with Color Dilute Alopecia. This is horrible news for our breed! When we started the SA (Sebaceous Adenitis) study, there were a LOT of folks that thought it was unnecessary and a waste of money since it was so rare. Surprise folks, SA is not rare. Now CDA shows up and I am for one very frightened for our breed if this spreads.

Someone shared this (not attached-too large) pdf with me today. Allowing blue pigment into our standard has obviously been very controversial and this new information is IMPORTANT for folks to know about. Some people have gone as far as to run ads in other publications in favor of allowing blue pigment. Hopefully the "other side" will also be heard on this issue and all the facts will be shared.

I have not been shy about sharing my feelings on allowing blue pigment, I think everyone knows I am against it 150%. We have made great strides in the research for SA and I hope that we don't find ourselves fighting another skin disease with CDA in the blue pigment dogs.

Blue pigment is currently a disqualification in our breed and it should remain that way. Breeders that breed away from our standard ON PURPOSE should be reprimanded. I don't care who you are or how long you have been in the breed. Its the rule we have all agreed to follow by signing the code of ethics. This is the rule we agreed to when we became members of the Havanese Club of America. No one is above the rules.

I understand that some people want pedigree info, owner info, dog info on Sarah. Do I know the owner of Sarah? Nope. Don't know the dog either. I also don't know any dogs in the rogue "blue study" or their owners either. Doesn't matter. It's against the rules to breed them, any way you look at it. And changing the standard to fit the breeders is just wrong. Call me crazy.

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I have no idea who this Sarah is or what prompted you to post this, but I've always made it known that I am breeding for black pigment and will continue to do so. Yes, I have a gorgeous chocolate male available for stud (selectively), but I have no interest in breeding for brown pigment, blue pigment nor pink or purple either.
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I have no idea who this Sarah is or what prompted you to post this, but I've always made it known that I am breeding for black pigment and will continue to do so. Yes, I have a gorgeous chocolate male available for stud (selectively), but I have no interest in breeding for brown pigment, blue pigment nor pink or purple either.
There are no health problems (that science is aware of) with brown pigment (bb) but the dilute of blue pigment (dd) DOES have the disease Color Dilute Alopecia associated with it in several breeds. "Sarah" was tested and confirmed to have this disease.

As some of you know, there are some breeders in the HCA that want to change the standard to allow blue pigment. I posted this to the Yahoo groups but wanted the forum to be informed on the status also.

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Thank you for posting this. As a pet owner I do like to know what is happening in the Havanese world.

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Yes, thank you. As a pet owner who plans on adding another Hav in the coming years, I want to be up on health issues in our lovely breed, too.

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I'm happy you posted this too as I love learning more about the breed. When people ask questions I like being able to give them an answer and the more I learn the better! I still get people who look at my dogs and say, "Hava-what?"

The more I see dogs that shouldn't have ever been bred the more I'm interested in things like this.

Thanks for posting.

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Thank you for the update, Janet!




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This is really interesting--I am glad you shared the information Janet. I remember there being some talk about the blue pigment on this forum quite a while back. It was an intriguing color and people found it rather interesting/and exciting.

It is nice to know this kind of info even as a pet owner because we all want a healthy havanese. I for one would run from anyone promoting this color since I have your information.

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Glad some of you found it informative.

I'm still surprised that more people aren't upset that breeders (HCA members) are promoting this color and breeding them on purpose when its against our current standard. Its a disqualification!! The push is to change the standard to allow blue pigment.

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Don't we need to keep in mind that there is a difference between bluish coat and actual blue pigment? As I see it, we already have havs with bluish coats and that is ok, but blue pigment is another story?? I would not like to see blue pigment and lighter (blue???) eyes in the havs. JMHO.

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