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Gizmo seems to itch at her ears and the bottom of her mouth A LOT!

When I bring her places like the trainer they always ask if she has been checked for fleas. She is on Frontline and Sentinel and has been checked for fleas several times by the groomer, vet, and myself.

The vet says that her ears are fine and she doesn't have any skin issues.

Anyone else have this problem or any idea? I feel bad for her because she is constantly stopping playing or resting to get up and itch She somtimes takes her back legs and itches at her front ones.
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Possibly an allergy,maybe to grass seeds?of course they can be allergic to all sorts of things.

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Tess scratches at her ears, chin & eyes and licks/chews on her front paws all of the time - she has bad environmental allergies.

If it is allergies, you might want to try wiping Gizmo down with a damp rag whenever he's been outside. Maybe that will help?

The other thing I thought of, could it be his teeth?

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She is currently eating Wellness Puppy. I noticed on their website they make an allergy formula one. Not sure if I should talk to the vet before switching her to that. It's an adult one and she is only 6 months.
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She is currently eating Wellness Puppy. I noticed on their website they make an allergy formula one. Not sure if I should talk to the vet before switching her to that. It's an adult one and she is only 6 months.
I would talk to your vet first, but mine told me to switch to adult feed after she was spayed and go from feeding her three times a day to two because they can quickly become overweight. We switched to Fromm around that time which was all life stages anyways, and I've never had any issues with her weight.

I've been told that some dogs are allergic to the more common proteins (chicken, lamb, etc) because it has been such a common part of their diet for generations. I feed Lily more exotic proteins in her main diet for this reason.

If you mix it very carefully and slowly integrate the new feed, it should minimize any digestive problems associated with the switch. (Like one tablespoon of the old feed out and the new feed in) If that causes issues, scale down to a couple kibbles.

If her itching clears up after a few weeks on the new feed, you'll know what caused it. I looked at the wellness Basic and it looks pretty good
http://www.wellnesspetfood.com/categ...?pet=dog&cat=3,

Here is the natural balance, the good thing is it comes in a small kibble size for dogs with baby or little teeth (it will say "small breed bites" on the package)
http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dogformulas/PandD.html
and comes in five different protein flavors.

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Last night I think this issue got worse. I turned around and saw the end of her tail fur was all redish/brown and then when I looked closer the end of her tail was all black and that is deffinitly where she was bleeding.
I also noticed a few blood areas higher up on her tail but I couldn't tell if she bit it there or if the blood just got on it
Has anyone ever gotten a dog allergy tested? I saw online even if you find the problem ingrediant it could take 60 days to clear up and I am worried about her It could be so many different things I don't know what to change first and I don't want to just change everything and make it worse....
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BTW - I took her to the Emergency Vet and they said there was no permanant damage and just to keep an eye on it. I just don't want this to keep happening
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Aw, poor Gizmo. I'm sorry you've had such a rough couple of days. I've done the allergy testing and I think DanielB has also. Here's the thread I did on my experience - http://havaneseforum.com/showthread.php?t=8558. Basically I had my vet do the $150-$200 blood test for allergies - it identified a number of food & environmental allergies. When nothing had improved I finally took her to an allergist. She had the skin prick test done. The allergist said there is not a reliable test to identify food allergies and the blood test is not that reliable for environmental allergies either. We've now been working for over a year and finally are managing Tess' allergies sufficiently that her scratching/licking doesn't drive either of us nuts (she doesn't have any food allergies but has quite a few environmental allergies). It was very expensive to have done but I don't believe I would have gotten to this point without the guidance of the allergist. I'm not sure I'd recommend going that route for everyone. Many on the forum have gone through the process of identifying food allergies on their own (I think there are some references in the thread above and a few others). Good Luck!

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I've seen people talking online about these issues and they are a lot worse then Gizmo's. I'm not sure if I am just overreacting (she is my first puppy). She scratches at her ears, bottom jaw, rubs her face, and bites her paws and fur where she can reach. She doesn't seem to have any other skin issues (except for this tail issue last night ). I think she scratches excessivly, but I am not quite sure what is normal. I just know whenever I take her someone (like Petco Training) I always get asked has she been checked for fleas by the trainers and other students. I am assuming this means she is scratching excessivly. I've asked the vet and groomer about her itching several times and just get (some dogs like to itch, and there are no skin issues, ear issues, or fleas). I called my vet and made an appoitment for tomorrow afternoon. I hope he can do something to help her this time .
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I know a lot of dogs (and people too) in my neighborhood are suffering from allergies right now. What the allergist told me is that every dog scratches some but if they continually have to stop what they're doing (playing, walking, etc.) to scratch then there is probably an underlying issue. Best suggestion I have - if you think it might be allergies and want to start trying things (like changing diet), do one thing at a time and give each one a few weeks. If you try to change a number of things, you'll never know what was the culprit. If you want to see if a food allergy is the problem, try searching for "elimination diet". Basically you'll change his food to something with limited ingredients and a protien base he couldn't possibly have an allergy to. Leave him on that for a number of months and then start slowly introducing new ingredients.

If there's any chance it could possibly be fleas - have you used a flea comb to see if you get any "dirt"? I've had times where I never saw the fleas themselves but the vet did find flea dirt so we treated for fleas and the scratching stopped.

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