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I'm almost positive Rollie has Sebaceous Adenitis

Hello, everyone.

It's been a while since I posted, but I was hoping for some advice. Rollie, now 7, developed crusty spots on his rear about a 1.5 years ago. At first, I just thought it was dirt build-up in his coat, but it began to spread up to his trunk. We've brought him to multiple vets, and basically, the input I'm getting is that it's likely a chronic skin condition that's more cosmetic than anything. I'm pretty sure it's sebaceous adenitis (the vets have ruled out everything you an test for, and they admit it could be SA, but they really haven't given an actual diagnosis), based on the way the scaly build-up--which is only spotty, not covering his whole boy--and the little clumps of hair that seem to come out when you remove one. (Sorry if that's gross!) But another thing I've noticed is that he has lost a ton of his coat. Some of the hair looks like it's grown back, but the skin condition hasn't gone away. It gets better then it gets worse again. Basically, all the soft, floofy coat is gone from his flank/back (all the white floof), and only the heavier/flatter, coarser hair remains (the brown/gold overcoat). I think he lost his under coat. It hasn't seemed to impact his legs/feet, chest, or head as much.

The vet gave him a course of IM antiboitics and an anti-inflammatory (oral), which seemed to help clear it up some, and we've been doing medicated baths alternating with Selsen Blue baths about weekly.

Do you know of anything else we might try to remove the scaly skin and to maybe promote hair regrowth? I'm not sure if there are better shampoos to try, and I hate to stop what we're doing since that's what the vets have recommended. But, at the same time, I'm only seeing mild improvement (and the vets don't seem to have any other ideas), so I'd appreciate any Hav owner expertise you can share.

Thanks, everyone!

P.S. This condition isn't life-threatening in any way, and aside from that, Rollie remains in great health and is happy and very energetic.


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I'm sorry, this is tough. Here are some informative links to check, in case you haven't already found them:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21210878

https://www.havanese.org/images/Zoet...s-Adenitis.pdf

http://www.havaneseforum.com/6-gener...-adenitis.html

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here is info Havanese related https://pages.wustl.edu/dogbreeds/se...-and-incidence

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Thanks guys! Has anyone here tried this stuff? For example, the article says to try "keratolytic shampoo," but has anyone here tried one, and what ones do you recommend? There's the oil dousing procedure, which I've read about, but has anyone done that? I read the akita post a while back, but I'm wondering if anyone has tried it recently and how it went. And I've heard of using different kinds of oil, but I don't know which is best.


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BTW, this is the most helpful article I've found, and it contains suggestions of the things to try (see lettered footnote at the end).

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I have no personal experience with SA, (we've got other problems, ) so have not used any of the recommendations.

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Jessica,

I am sorry that you have been frustrated in getting Rollie's skin condition diagnosed. My understanding is that the best way to diagnose S.A. is to do a biopsy with the sample needs to be sent to a lab. Havanese REscue has taken in a number of dogs with SA with most of them treated by Sandra Koch, DVM, a professor at the University of Minnesota College of Veterinary Medicine who has studied this condition in Havanese.

https://www.vmc.umn.edu/bio/doctors-...al/sandra-koch

Perhaps your Vet can refer you to a Veterinary Dermatologist or will contact Dr. Koch to consult on Rollie's case.

There was another Havanese with S.A. who came into HRI about a year ago in the Tri-State area. her foster mom handled her treatment and decided to adopt her. She is a member of the Havanese forum, so I will ask her to comment on this thread as she knows so much more than I do.

Good luck with getting Rollie diagnosed soon.

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Hi Jesse,
I thought I had replied to you earlier buy my post doesn't seem to be showing up so I'm posting again.

I'm the one Starr mentioned that has the pup with SA. She was diagnosed by a dermatologist and had biopsies and skin scrapings to determine that. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have regarding SA I have learned a lot since acquiring Lucy.
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Jessica,

How is Rollie doing? Have you taken him to a Veterinary Dermatologist for biopsies and skin scrapings as Jen did with Lucy?



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Hi, Starr.

Yes, they did the skin scraping, and from what my vet told me, this is more of a diagnosis of rule-outs as opposed to something they actually can "see." I wonder if that is accurate...


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