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How much is too much itching ? And when do they loose their puppy hair?

Maddie is being treated for itching. Her skin was very dry and flakie. We shampoo her with a conditioning shampoo. She is being treated as a precaution for mites and is taking hydroxzine for her skin.
We noticed her itching from the first day home. I have never seen a flee and I guess you don't see mites her ears have been fine. She is much better after the last treatment although I don't know if it was mite medication or the hydroxzine that has made her feel better.
I am concerned because she has lost alot of hair on her back and down her legs.I did cut about 12 mats out but not to the extent of all the hair loss. Can she be just loosing her puppy coat she is only 4mo old. I am hoping when I stop giving her the hydroxine she won't go back to itching so much that her skin got so bad.
SO HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH ITCHING AND IS 4M0 TO SOON TO LOOSE HER PUPPY COAT?
I'm worried I have included a photo of her and her hair loss.
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Not sure if this will help but....Ari started to chew himself around his back legs and tail right around the time he was neutered. He kept it up until he had bald patches and his tail looked like a little pink stick. The vet couldn't find anything (mites, fleas, mange) and we tried anti-anxiety pills and anti-inflammatories for allergies. Neither worked. We tried shampoos, tea tree oil sprays, keeping him extra clean, letting him get dirtier. Nothing worked. Eventually he slowed down the incessant chewing and his hair started to grow back. Now he's 14 months old and his fur and tail look great. He still starts everyday with a big chew-fest but his hair no longer comes out (I am starting to suspect the baby teeth were too sharp and his adult teeth don't have the same effect on his oh so soft cottony fur.)
Good luck with your little one. I know it looks awful and people stop to comment but it went away and is just a bad memory now for us.
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I've never heard of a Havanese blowing coat anywhere near four months old. Could it be an allergy to the food he's eating?

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Thanks Judy,
Your feisty is very cute! For awhile I was thinking Maddie is grooming herself and her teeth are very sharp. I'm hoping it is not a alergic reaction to something.
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Suzi, that much coat loss is not normal and she shouldn't be blowing coat for another 3 - 4 mos. at least. Since you've already gone to the vet maybe you could call them and ask if any of these he diagnosed can cause such extensive hair loss. Please keep us posted. Hopefully, whatever it is will be cleared up soon and the hair will come back in.

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What color is her skin where she is itchy?

My old dog had seasonal allergies. There were a couple of weeks in the spring and fall, he would go nuts and chew himself silly. At the start of it, his skin would look speckly and the dots would connect and be pinkish, mostly in the groin area.

The brand of food he ate has a herring/sweet potato version. I would add a 5 lb bag to every 30 lb of other varieties. The fish helped. Also, during the itchy season, I gave fish oil pills. It seemed to work. And his hair was soooo shiny and soft.

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Bailey is treated for Allergies and Itching, he takes a pill every other day (atopica) and also is on a diet that contains no wheat or grain (Blue Wilderness), the combination of the two has stopped him from itching completely. He used to itch his face so much he was making cuts by his eyes

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for some reason I have been having trouble responding. I type and push reply and it says I'm not signed in. I sign in and my post is gone. fish oil yes! color of skin still pink she seems better. hope it was mites
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Suzi, first I just want to say how adorable Maddie is. Has her back end been shaved or is that all from just falling out? She kind of looks like a portugese water dog. I really hope your vet hit it on the nail with mites and/or fleas. But if it continues ask your vet about sabaceous adonitis. Often referred to as SA. You can do a search here on the forum I know it has been discussed. and here is a link to a breeder who has a page about it and is very involved in research. http://janizonahavanese.com/SA.html I know if you wrote Janet she could answer a lot of questions.

Don't let this scare you, just keep it as info in case you need it.


Good luck and please keep us posted on Maddie.




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I have been reading a lot about skin disorders . So fare she does not fit the discriptions of most of them. Allergies would be more like it.Although she has been treated now for over a week and seems much better.
I was to talk to the vet yesterday to tell her how she is and I wanted to try to find out what is to much itching. Right now she only itches about once every half hour for only about 3 seconds. is that too much?
We are cutting down the pill to one a day and calling back on friday. I have no idea if it is the pill or the treatment fo little ickey mites.
She said yes her hair could come out from all the irritation. And said the fish oil 1/2 pill aday would be good for her dry skin.
I hope it is just the little ichie mites. PS the vet said it is not mange
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