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Itching and probiotics and other solutions

My groomer said that some dog owners use probiotics to help with itching... I think he said that people give a little yogurt or kefir or something with probiotics. Any experience with this helping or not helping?

I've given Apoquel for three months and it helps, but am nervous about continuing it indefinitely.

The anti-inflammatory shots help for about 3 weeks. So that didn't seem like a long terms solution either. But, that might be the best solution.

Just asking my vet about Zyrtec. Do people give a "pet Zyrtec"?

Thanks.
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My groomer said that some dog owners use probiotics to help with itching... I think he said that people give a little yogurt or kefir or something with probiotics. Any experience with this helping or not helping?

I've given Apoquel for three months and it helps, but am nervous about continuing it indefinitely.

The anti-inflammatory shots help for about 3 weeks. So that didn't seem like a long terms solution either. But, that might be the best solution.

Just asking my vet about Zyrtec. Do people give a "pet Zyrtec"?

Thanks.
I am not sure why probiotics would help with itching. Probiotics are a good idea in general, all my dogs get them. But I feed them a specific probiotic supplement, with a known number of probiotic units, not just by giving them some yogurt. The other problem is that unless you KNOW your dog doesn't have a dairy intolerance, you could be making things worse.

The short answer is that, yes, Zyrtec can be used for dogs, and no, it is not a specific "pet" formula... Kodi takes regular, human Zyrtec. However, itching is a medical problem and one that can have many causes. You really need to be working on it with your vet. If you don't think your vet is getting to the root of the problem, ask for a referral to a veterinary dermatologist.


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I was wondering if your dog itches all the time or if it is seasonal. I do give my dogs some raw milk kefir daily and feel it is beneficial, however they did not itch beforehand so canít say that it helped with itching. It would be good to try to get to the root cause of the itching, whether environmental or food related. Could even be the shampoo they use. Over vaccinating can also cause itching. Others here may have advice on getting to the root cause. Some people say supplementing with fish oil can help, however I do not use it myself.
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Thanks - I guess the probiotic idea for itching didn't make much sense to me either... My vet wants to do allergy testing, so I guess we will go with that route. She said that they test and then make up a serum for injection. Emma is almost 5 years old and she said that a lot of dogs develop environmental allergies around that age. The itching started in September... so it is not caused by cold weather. I know the injections are pretty expensive and I am a new dog owner and not sure how normal the itching is.

Am curious about whether it would be better to go to a vet dermatologist for this... Or if this is pretty standard and that I could get what I need from the allergy test and serum injection she offers.

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[QUOTE=krandall;1427434] Probiotics are a good idea in general, all my dogs get them. But I feed them a specific probiotic supplement, with a known number of probiotic units

Would my vet be the best resource for asking about probiotics? Or is this an alternative thing, that I research and buy independently usually?

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Not sure where you live but here in Missouri August and September are peak season for fleas. Even if your dog is on flea tick meds, the flea has to bite the dog first. Sometimes it only takes one flea bite to set them off. If she is biting around tail area this is a big clue she may have a flea bite. Since this is a common dog allergy, I assume the vet will check for this. Ideally the vet gets to root cause and the allergen can be avoided instead of having to inject her. Good luck!
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Probiotics are a good idea in general, all my dogs get them. But I feed them a specific probiotic supplement, with a known number of probiotic units

Would my vet be the best resource for asking about probiotics? Or is this an alternative thing, that I research and buy independently usually?

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You don't need to get probiotics from a vet. (although many have them for sale too... mine has them for sale, but freely tells people that they are cheaper online! LOL!) The ones my vet recommends, because they are shelf-stable and do not require refrigeration are these: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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You don't need to get probiotics from a vet. (although many have them for sale too... mine has them for sale, but freely tells people that they are cheaper online! LOL!) The ones my vet recommends, because they are shelf-stable and do not require refrigeration are these: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Karen - just looked at this probiotic on Amazon and some of the reviews are saying it helps with allergies and itching. Are you using this product on Kodi? I'm still trying to find something for Willow's feet licking. She gets Cytopoint injected which helps somewhat but it'a not always convenient to make the run to the vet when she seems to need another. It's a ways away. She's currently getting Proviable DC but I don't know if it really does anything or not.



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My groomer said that some dog owners use probiotics to help with itching... I think he said that people give a little yogurt or kefir or something with probiotics. Any experience with this helping or not helping?

I've given Apoquel for three months and it helps, but am nervous about continuing it indefinitely.

The anti-inflammatory shots help for about 3 weeks. So that didn't seem like a long terms solution either. But, that might be the best solution.

Just asking my vet about Zyrtec. Do people give a "pet Zyrtec"?

Thanks.
Willow took Apoquel for awhile too but it made me nervous from what I've read about. It did help with the itching though. She gets Cytopoint which helps somewhat for awhile.

I tried Benadryl after asking the vet about it in order to get the proper dosage. It really made her lethargic so I stopped that. I also asked the vet about Zyrtec, but he said not to try that one on her. It was because she is so small (7-1/2 lbs.) that it would be difficult to get the proper dosage.



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you have to find out what is causing the itching, first .... here is some info https://www.hemopet.org/cytopoint-dogs-itchy-skin/

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