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Heart Worm/Flea/Lepto ???

We moved from Western Washington to West Sacramento. It looks like we have to go on some preventatives. Both local Vets that I have talked to said we need to be on heart worm and flea/tick prevention. A little more ambiguous about Lepto vaccine. One said we don't need it. The other said they normally strongly recommend it. But to consider the opportunities Skye may have to encounter areas and water sources that may have been contaminated whether on our outings or even in our own backyard and then make my own decision.

I searched on here for what members have been using, but those I found are pretty old conversations. I have been considering Heartgard (not the +) for heart worm, and Advantix for fleas/ticks. Strongly leaning toward forgoing Lepto vaccine.

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We have used Heartgard plus and K9 Advantix II for six years with Molly and have had no adverse effects. She loves the taste of the Heartgard and gobbles it up. Interceptor is also an excellent choice for Heartworm protection. Following the advice of my breeder, I decided not to give Molly the Lepto vaccine.
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I use Sentinel for heartworm, flea control, year round(Florida). I have used it for 4 dogs now without issues. It does not do anything for ticks though. There was a big tick outbreak here 2 years ago when I first got Shadow and found several walking on him,not attached. I freaked out. First I tried a topical and it did nothing. My vet suggested a pill, I used it for 4 months and thankfully the ticks thing is over but I am always looking.
He has not had Lepto, at almost 3yrs., much to my vet's dismay. My breeder doesn't do it either.
I think that it depends on your area and lifestyle.
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My understanding of the lepto vaccine is that there are many strains of it and the vaccine does not cover them all. I also understand that the immunity does not last long and has to be repeated often. It is also one of the vaccines with the worst side effects. Therefore, it sounds like a lot of risk for not much benefit. I would be interested in the vets thoughts on this. Perhaps the vaccine is different now than years ago when I considered it.

With Skye currently under stress of some sorts and an unknown condition, I personally would be afraid to now start him on some drugs. Even though considered safe, these are poisons at some level and the liver will try to detox them. Would hate to further stress the liver right now. Just my honest opinion. For ticks, I just use natural repellents and do frequent tick checks and I live in a heavily tick infested area where ehrlicia is epidemic. Both dogs are 11 and have no tick diseases.
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Just wanted to add that simply keeping your dog from drinking standing water goes along way in preventing lepto.
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The parasite incidence map is out there for 2019 so you can check reported cases of tick and heartworm diseases in your county to assess your risk.

https://www.petsandparasites.org/par...united-states/
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Thank you all for the replies.

I am reluctant to introduce other chemicals into our lives while we are still trying to sort out Skye's liver issues. Heart worm is not as prevalent here as in the Bayous for sure. But Dr. Chen did say that she sees several cases every year. Across the road from our backyard is about 20 acres of open field. The Main Drain Canal is just one street over from our front door. The paved paths and gravel trails that we walk every day have vegetation along the edges and border the Main Drain Canal. There are also retention ponds alongs those paths and trails. We have had temps in the 60s so will probably be seeing mosquitos soon. The Doctor did give the OK for Heartgard and wrote a prescription. So I could start with the Heartgard and wait it out to start flea and tick control.

So much to think about while trying to chase down Skye's underlying issues

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Ehrliciosis is the main tick disease where I live which can be transmitted in less than four hours. No tick med is going to kill a tick that fast. Avoiding wooded areas and tall grass along with frequent tick checks can really help. Most of the dogs around here with Ehrlichiosis are on preventatives. For mosquitoes, avoiding going out at dawn and dusk when they feed can be helpful.
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We are going on a roadie here shortly from Central Alberta to Austin Texas and I have chatted with our Vetrinarian. He said to definitely do the heart worm and the tick prevention. So a week before we head out Danny goes to see the doctor and get his pills and drops.
The other two disease mentioned above I don't know anything about them but if not drinking standing water is a good start ewe should be okay. Somebody pretty much won't drink water unless it's in a bowl.
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We use a topical application called Revolution.

No matter how big or small, our dogs need our help to protect them from parasites. REVOLUTION® (selamectin) provides that help. Just one application a month provides protection against fleas and heartworms, treats and controls ear mites and sarcoptic mange, and controls ticks infestations due to American dog ticks. REVOLUTION can treat puppies as young as 6 weeks, and is available in sizes to treat dogs up to 130 lbs with one simple monthly dose.

https://www.revolution4dogs.com/

Our vet told us to have her also wear a tick collar when ticks could be a problem, because she said Revolution is not that great against ticks.

We have been giving the lepto vaccine to Shama every year, because that was what our vet recommended. She has not suffered side effects as far as we can tell.

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