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Shama has kidney disease

Our trusted vet noticed a "pink flag" when Shama had blood work done before her December teeth cleaning. We went back for a follow-up visit on March 9, and we got the results today. We will be getting a referral to the U of MN or Blue Pearl in Eden Prairie (KarMar, I suppose you may have an opinion on those two options ...) for further information, but for now we know the following: Shama has been drinking more water than the average dog her size - two and a half times the expected amount - because her kidneys aren't working optimally. We will need to switch her to a diet designed for kidney care. (The vet recommended Royal Canine, but we haven't done our research yet to decide.) The hardest thing, it seems to me, will be that I'll need to switch her training treats to those very low in protein. I'm hoping to be able to figure out what treats are high value (i.e., motivating for our little treat-driven girl) even while significantly lower in protein than those she's used to.

What's great is that we know about Shama's kidney disease very early. She is not yet five years old, and the vet said people often don't realize their dog has kidney problems until the dog is 10 years old. So we're hopeful that changing her diet now will greatly improve her quality of life in the long-term.

I know you care about Shama, so I wanted you to be aware of this new development in her life. If you have inspiring stories to share, that would be great. We're not interested in hearing sad stories, however!

Thanks for your positive vibes. We'll keep you posted.
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Sending you those positive vibes. It is great you caught it so early. She is so lucky to have you watching out for her. Diet changes can make an important difference for many issues. You never know when something crazy like this will pop up out of the blue but early intervention works for humans on so many things, same is true for our dogs and cats.
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Sorry for the news. Depending on the type of kidney disease.., a reduction in protein is not always recommended. Here is one article https://www.hemopet.org/diets-dogs-health-conditions/ I would definitely talk to an expert as this . is new to a number of vets still.
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https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/he...ys-the-answer/
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https://www.championpetfoods.com/wp-...gh_Protein.pdf
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I am so sorry to hear about Shama! I wish you the best in finding the proper diet for her. If it is any comfort to you, one of my previous cats had kidney disease and lived to be 17 years old and seemed quite happy.
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I was also going to suggest checking with your vet and looking into the details regarding protein. Of course it may be different with dogs, but I learned from DS that they often label “low protein” and “low phosphorous” as blanket dietary restrictions because it’s easy for people to remember and follow, but the there are exceptions, and some are better than others. If you’re able to identify those details then it might open up your options as far as treats!

Does she like blueberries and strawberries? Those are good for human kidney diets!

Hope she’s feeling well
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I am so sorry to hear that my favorite forum girl, Shama, is facing these health issues. It is great that you caught it so early though. My last dog was a Bichon that had to be on prescription food very early on in her life. It did what it was supposed to do and she lived a long and happy life. I donít know if Shama is picky about treats but the company that makes the food may also have treats that go along with their prescription diets (I know Hills did). I also used to make treats by opening a can of prescription food and taking it out in one piece. I would cut it in slices, and then into smaller treat size pieces. You can then bake them in a low temperature oven to bake them into hard treats. Good luck to you as you navigate this new health journey with your sweet girl. Molly and I send all our love and positive vibes to you and Shama. ❤️
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Sending positive vibs to you and pretty Shama.
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davetgabby - All of the articles you shared are outstanding. Thank you very much for sharing these. I hope everyone reads them, even those who currently have dogs without kidney disease.
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