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Both our Havanese come from the same breeder but different litters. DaniGirl is 10 and Bella is 3. They are normally healthy and happy.

In March we took Dani to the vet because of a hacking cough. After a round of antibiotics we had Dani's teeth cleaned and it was then that the vet found an inflamed tonsil. A couple more rounds of antibiotics and her tonsil was checked again--it was back to normal. But a couple of days after the antibiotics were stopped, the cough came back, but not as bad.

Inflamed tonsils are very rare. Our vet considered cancer as a possibility but when they were back to normal, that was ruled out. She thought bacteria from the teeth could have caused it.

Yesterday we took Bella in for a teeth cleaning. The vet found both of her tonsils very inflamed and a scraping showed they were loaded with bacteria. She did research but could not find a reason for this since it's very rare. Her blood work was normal but the white blood count was close to being low.

Question: has anyone else had this problem? I'm trying to locate a virus or reason for both to have inflamed tonsils.

Background: we have no carpet in the house, I use vinegar and water to clean, they don't spend unnecessary time outside, etc.
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Nancy - as strange as it might sound - just ask them to do cultures for Staph. Humans (and I personally believe dogs) can be colonized with staph and it may take a different kind of antibiotic, and a longer treatment.

Dont let the vet "poo poo" the idea I have lots of personal experience with this!!!!!

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Yes, keep the post going until you have answers, it will relieve all of us to know what is going on.

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I'd also get a second opinion. Your vet is doing everything right it sounds like, but a fresh perspective and the old, "two heads are better than one" adage might apply here. Whatever the bacteria is, they've shared it but that would be easy to do with dogs since their play always involves mouths and tongues. I hope you get an answer soon! Is there a vet school near you that you might try?

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The vet said that if this didn't clear things up she'd do a culture. I'm hoping that doesn't have to happen but if it comes back, we'll have it done.

There is vet school that I'm going to contact to see if they know of something going around.

Because of their age difference, they rarely play hard and Dani doesn't chew often on toys. But I've begun washing the toys again in the wash machine. Bella loves when I do that because she waits by the dryer for the toys to be done--I guess there's something special about hot synthetic fur! And I wash their bedding after their weekly bath.

I just KNOW I can't be the only one in the world with this problem and what better place to find information than on this site!
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Nancy - as strange as it might sound - just ask them to do cultures for Staph. Humans (and I personally believe dogs) can be colonized with staph and it may take a different kind of antibiotic, and a longer treatment.

Dont let the vet "poo poo" the idea I have lots of personal experience with this!!!!!
A few years ago Bella had red, inflamed feet. It was right before my father died and we were busy taking care of him so I didn't pay enough attention to Bella. Well, the vet took a culture at that time and Bella had staph and strep and a fungus on her feet. She had soaps, cream, and other things for it.
After that incident, we began washing their feet after morning walks.
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A few years ago Bella had red, inflamed feet. It was right before my father died and we were busy taking care of him so I didn't pay enough attention to Bella. Well, the vet took a culture at that time and Bella had staph and strep and a fungus on her feet. She had soaps, cream, and other things for it.
After that incident, we began washing their feet after morning walks.
Now that is frightening...I have noticed Sir Winston biting one of his feet, will have to watch that...he will be having a bath today...is there anything you can use to help along the way, I guess you would have to give a foot bath and then a regular bath...

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Nancy, how are their anal glands? I came upon this article about tonsilitis and anal glands...

http://www.greatdanelady.com/article...d_problems.htm

another thought is all the strange delayed symptoms tick borne diseases cause. I don't know if it is the same in dogs, but I know in humans, Lyme does not always go completely away with one course of antibiotics and cause a host of symptoms.




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One never stops learning...that is interesting information...good to keep for reference, thanks Missy.

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Nancy, how are their anal glands? I came upon this article about tonsilitis and anal glands...

http://www.greatdanelady.com/article...d_problems.htm

another thought is all the strange delayed symptoms tick borne diseases cause. I don't know if it is the same in dogs, but I know in humans, Lyme does not always go completely away with one course of antibiotics and cause a host of symptoms.
I also saw that anal gland problems can convey bacteria but they are great in that area. They never mess with their tails.

They don't even come in contact with other dogs. The only outside-yard activity is when we go for walks. I know sickness isn't supposed to be transmitted to humans from dogs, but Bella is a licker. I wondered if she could have picked up some bacteria when she greeted someone? It is a mystery.
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