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Does anyone routinely give probiotics such as FortiFlora perhaps on a once a week basis?

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Yes, I have been using them in Gucci's meals for over a year now and they work great, IMO. I use the integrative therapeutics brand and sprinkle a little out of the capsule.

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Tillie is on a home cooked diet from Sabine (dog nutritionist) and Tillie does get 1/2 a capsule of a probiotic each day...

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Yes, I give Kodi probiotics regularly. But I'm not sure what the point would be of giving them only once a week. If you are going to use them, use asa directed. I use Oma's Pride "O'Paws" Digestive Performance. Kodi gets the amount commended for his weight daily, and gets twice that (as recommended) when he is showing or otherwise under stress.

He might do fine without it, but when he had his expensive (and frightening) digestive problem last winter, the vet suggested putting him on it. When he was finally better, we talked about it, and decided it couldn't possibly hurt to put him on a probiotic, and it probably made sense for an active eprformance dog anyway. A jar is expensive, (I think it was about $60) but considering that it will most likely last 9 months or so, the daily cost is pretty low.


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I would recommend using them , very beneficial Not sure about the one you mentioned. Here's an article by Sabine. http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=probiotics Here's the one I use.,very inexpensive no refrigeration needed. http://www.houseofnutrition.com/733739029133.html

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I would recommend using them , very beneficial Not sure about the one you mentioned. Here's an article by Sabine. http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=probiotics Here's the one I use.,very inexpensive no refrigeration needed. http://www.houseofnutrition.com/733739029133.html
Yeah, Kodi's doesn't need refrigeration either. And while the jar is expensive because you buy a lot at once, It's chep to feed ona daily basis, especially for one of our little dogs!


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yeah Karen I'm thinking you're right about daily. For probiotics to do any good they have to be used long term ie. lifetime and daily usually. This is from Sabine....The most important detail is the concentration of “Colony Forming Units” of organisms, or CFU.
To provide a truly therapeutic effect, a product should supply at the very least 1-2 billion CFU per
serving. Do not waste your money on products that contain only several millions, or even just tens
of thousands. The second most important detail is how long the potency of CFU is guaranteed –
it’s better if the guarantee applies throughout the shelf life of the product rather than just “at time
of manufacture”.

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On looking at this web site, it looks more than a probiotic. Made by Purina. which for me is a red flag. Animal digest first ingredient red flag. But I'm not an expert , so I've got a email out to Sabine to answer your question. Back as soon as I hear from her. Nowhere does it mention the number of CFU's

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I knew I saw something on Animal Digest . Here is something on it from Sabines site. Products to Avoid


Animal Digest


AAFCO: A material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. The animal tissues used shall be exclusive of hair, horns, teeth, hooves and feathers, except in such trace amounts as might occur unavoidably in good factory practice and shall be suitable for animal feed. If it bears a name descriptive of its kind or flavor(s), it must correspond thereto.

A cooked-down broth made from unspecified parts of unspecified animals. The animals used can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), goats, pigs, horses, rats, misc. roadkill, animals euthanized at shelters, restaurant and supermarket refuse and so on

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Thanks

Thanks to everyone for the points of view--valuable. The articles are
also helpful.

When Keeper had a bout of diarrhea several weeks ago--actually not a bout but two incidents first thing in the morning on two alternate days, we took him to the vet who found no 'bad' bugs. He said that the FortiFlora is the first line of defense against diarrhea and he was right--cleared right up.

I was confused on how often to give it if all was well. FortiFlora comes in packets that do not require refrigeration. I'm going to give his office a call and see what his recommendation is on just continuing giving it. He always recommended giving this 3 days before and 3 days after when he was showing.

Again, thanks for the help.

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