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Unhappy Male Havie itches constantly

Hi everyone,
We have a beloved 2 year old cream male Havanese that has itched since we brought him home at 3 months old. At first it was just a little bit of itching on his sides. At the time we tried oatmeal shampoo which didn't seem to make a difference. We also tried atarax which didn't help much either. Then we had him tested for allergies. He has many allergies including to dust so we started to vaccuum constantly and clean his bedding and sheets often. We tried anti-itch sprays. He still itched. We put him on steroids for a small amount of time which did help, but they aren't good for him.

His itching just kept getting worse so we tried Greer Allergenic Extract allergy shots for 6 months. Everytime he had an allergy shot he would be so itchy that he had to be put on a little bit of steroids which of course bothered us.

We eventually stopped the shots because in October 2011 our vet gave him two vaccines plus the allergy shot all in one sitting. That night he bit his foot so much that soon his foot was red and bloody looking. It finally became all crusty and infected. Then he had to wear a cone on his head for almost 3 weeks and took antibiotics for the infection.

Now two months later he is still itching very badly. It makes us so sad. I guess we are at our wits end. We love him so much and want to help him, but aren't sure what to do anymore. Right now we are slowly trying to switch him to a no grain food called Pinnacle Natural Salmon and Potato Recipe. We also are having his hair cut extremely short. We've been giving him two baths a week. We still vacuum alot. We wipe his hair with a wet rag to remove allergens, and we even started putting cotton t-shirts on him to control the itching. Unfortunately, he HATES the shirts and likes to hide from us when they are on. Without the shirts he is a happy yet VERY itchy guy. Does anyone have ANY suggestions? Has anyone had this problem with their beloved Havie? I'm determined to get him better no matter how long or what it takes.

Thank you so much,
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Have you tried Chlortrimetron, an over the counter antihistamine? We had 4 English Bulldogs over the past 30 years and they are fraught with skin allergies. What do you do with dogs who are allergic to grass, geez!

I feel for you. It was so frustrating trying to find our bullies some relief. They ended up on steroids for many years. Seems like every time they finished a round of steroids, they'd get another round of bacterial and yeast infections in their skin. We took them to a vet who specialized in dermatology. Wish I knew the magic bullet, but not sure there is one.

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I have an itchy boy also. He gets once a month anti-inflammatory shots. He's 5 yrs old next month and when we started the once-a-month shot 3 months ago, it was the first relief he's had. We had tried the food allergy/yeast/etc. route. Nothing worked until this.

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Sissy has always itched too since we moved into our new place about a year ago so I'm assuming it's something in the yard or close to here...she never had the problem before moving in here....but I also switched their food to non grain just in case, use Benadryll (vet gave me dosage) if it gets really bad and a spray called tea tree oil with aloe vera.......those seem to keep hers manageable...they also suggested steroids if it got really bad but I didn't want to put her on those so we try to manage it with what I said above....I also stress to the groomers that they absoutely cannot use any types of cologne, etc on her...........
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Hope I do this right..my first post.

We had a poodle that had this problem. We tried everything and I hated the side effects of the meds. the vet tried. What we ended up doing was purchasing honey LOCALLY MADE and with in 2 months all the itching was gone. I put a small amount in her food all year and I swear she never had a problem again. Our vet was so surprised. I also have a grandson with allergies and he uses the locally made honey also and has really lessened his problems. Just an idea and I know how frustrating it is to see them suffer like that.
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We changed two things about 6 months ago, and we have been very happy with the results.

We started using Allermyl Shampoo and taking Atopica. We started with 1 pill a day for the first 60 days, then cut back to one pill every other day.

Before we started these he would itch sores on himself, he couldn’t sleep peacefully because he itched all the time, but now he is doing great. It is such a relief to find something that works.
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Hi everyone,
We have a beloved 2 year old cream male Havanese that has itched since we brought him home at 3 months old. At first it was just a little bit of itching on his sides. At the time we tried oatmeal shampoo which didn't seem to make a difference. We also tried atarax which didn't help much either. Then we had him tested for allergies. He has many allergies including to dust so we started to vaccuum constantly and clean his bedding and sheets often. We tried anti-itch sprays. He still itched. We put him on steroids for a small amount of time which did help, but they aren't good for him.

His itching just kept getting worse so we tried Greer Allergenic Extract allergy shots for 6 months. Everytime he had an allergy shot he would be so itchy that he had to be put on a little bit of steroids which of course bothered us.

We eventually stopped the shots because in October 2011 our vet gave him two vaccines plus the allergy shot all in one sitting. That night he bit his foot so much that soon his foot was red and bloody looking. It finally became all crusty and infected. Then he had to wear a cone on his head for almost 3 weeks and took antibiotics for the infection.

Now two months later he is still itching very badly. It makes us so sad. I guess we are at our wits end. We love him so much and want to help him, but aren't sure what to do anymore. Right now we are slowly trying to switch him to a no grain food called Pinnacle Natural Salmon and Potato Recipe. We also are having his hair cut extremely short. We've been giving him two baths a week. We still vacuum alot. We wipe his hair with a wet rag to remove allergens, and we even started putting cotton t-shirts on him to control the itching. Unfortunately, he HATES the shirts and likes to hide from us when they are on. Without the shirts he is a happy yet VERY itchy guy. Does anyone have ANY suggestions? Has anyone had this problem with their beloved Havie? I'm determined to get him better no matter how long or what it takes.

Thank you so much,
Sincerely,
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I am so sorry you have been through so much trying to solve this problem. I think you should consult Sabine about this...PLEASE WEIGH IN DAVE... I have read so much on nutritian I know that it takes an expert to make sense. If the food will help it will be the simplest, least expensive FIX...I would also try the Allermyl Shampoo...I don't know about Atopica..but it is worth looking into. Be sure he is not on any wool blankets, does not wear any wool sweaters, coats..and use filtered/distilled water, or whatever Sabine suggests..Her prices are good and she knows her stuff..Please keep this link going and let us know what is going on...itching seems to be a big problem with many dogs, Havanese or not! I know you are frustrated! But you came to the right place for suggestions (the reason I recommend Sabine is that starch can also be a problem, not just grains)...

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Hope I do this right..my first post.

We had a poodle that had this problem. We tried everything and I hated the side effects of the meds. the vet tried. What we ended up doing was purchasing honey LOCALLY MADE and with in 2 months all the itching was gone. I put a small amount in her food all year and I swear she never had a problem again. Our vet was so surprised. I also have a grandson with allergies and he uses the locally made honey also and has really lessened his problems. Just an idea and I know how frustrating it is to see them suffer like that.
I don't know anything about allergies in dogs but I just wanted to say, whitzend's idea actually makes sense and I have heard it before (with reference to children, not to dogs, but I imagine it would work, or at least be worth a try). From what I understand, the processed (by bees) honey made from the local pollen acts as sort of a homeopathic solution. (Also, I will have to remember this next spring when *my* allergies get bad!)

Also, I am sure Dave will weigh in, and a consultation with Sabine has (I have heard) changed more than one hav's life on this forum for the better .
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I don't know anything about allergies in dogs but I just wanted to say, whitzend's idea actually makes sense and I have heard it before (with reference to children, not to dogs, but I imagine it would work, or at least be worth a try). From what I understand, the processed (by bees) honey made from the local pollen acts as sort of a homeopathic solution. (Also, I will have to remember this next spring when *my* allergies get bad!)

Also, I am sure Dave will weigh in, and a consultation with Sabine has (I have heard) changed more than one hav's life on this forum for the better .
heatherk, if you try this for yourself you should start now and use all year. It's better before your allergies start. My daughter found all year round really helps with my grandson.
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heatherk, if you try this for yourself you should start now and use all year. It's better before your allergies start. My daughter found all year round really helps with my grandson.
Thanks whitzend, I will try it...
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