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How would I know if this is a food allergy?

I'd loveto hear from anyone who has had any experience with these health issues. My Princess Leia is 9 months old and has been eating Life's Abundance food since weaning at the breeder's. She did great for the first ~7.5 months of her life. Recently she's had vomiting and constipation issues. The constipation has resolved by adding 1 teaspoon of canned pumpkin to her diet (2x daily). She continues with occasional vomiting episodes and they tend to be every 2-3 weeks with vomiting occuring 2-3 times over a 5-6 hour period. So, by the time she's tossed her food, stomach acid, etc., there are tiny spots of blood in what's coming up. I've been to the vet x 3 for this...with blockages and other severe abnormalities being ruled out by x-ray. At 8.2 pounds, I always worry about dehydration with the vomiting. Last episode of vomiting x 3 was last night. I spoke with a vet (not my regular) this morning who said to keep her on a bland diet (white rice and chicken baby food) and give her Pepcid for 3 days. She's acting her spunky self now and is scarfing the bland diet. We are being SO careful not to give her anything that might upset her GI tract. We've entirely cut out Flossies and Bully Sticks (which she ADORES) as well as any extraneous treats. She is a voracious chewer and she does have access to himalayan chews. Anyone had problems with those?

Have any of you had similar experiences with your dog/s? If your dog has a food allergy, when/how did you find out? If she has been thriving on Life's Abundance (I have no particular affinity/loyalty to this food; in fact, the breeder gets kick backs from the company) why is she having problems now?

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My Havanese have not had stomach issues, however my Shih Tzu and Lhasa had many stomach issues, one of the problems was because of their short noises they need to not go with out any food in their stomachs for long periods, so in the morning they need a treat or a small meal or they would vomit bile, bile is bright yellow and if not cleaned up soon causes stains. My Tzu had a sensitive stomach and when ever taking meds needed pepcid or he would become ill. Do not worry about using pepcid many Vets prescribe it for small dogs with sensitive stomachs. There is now a test for food allergys, food allergys are rare, although on the forum there may seem to be quite a few dogs with food allergys, this could be accounted by the fact that may people seek out the forum when their dogs have a problem.

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[email protected] Yeah like Robbie mentioned, this can be a difficult thing to diagnose. This is Sabine's email address. A number of people here have used her for diet issues and consultations. A letter to her might be a start . She is a very honest, educated pet nutritionist and works a lot with allergies. Very inexpensive. I would give her a letter and see what she thinks. She will tell you whether you should treat it as an allergy.

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Bella is 4 years old and Dani is 10. Both of them would throw up after eating a few times a week and they would have stool issues. I changed food, adding this or that and even got a bowl that keeps them from gulping their food. They ate kibbles and I would even moisten the kibbles.

Everything changed when I switched to canned. They've been on canned RX (Bella) and Dani is on Wellness, canned, SIMPLE/salmon. Bella has struvite crystals and this RX food has helped her. It comes in kibble but I use the canned. Neither dog throws up any longer and there are no stool issues. Now they love to eat and dance around until I put the food on the floor (no small thing for a 10 year old!).

Canned isn't cheap, especially the quality canned, but vet bills cost even more. And they are happy and healthy. No digestive issues any longer. It might be something to try.
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my hav had horrible 'pustules' (pus filled sores, crusted over) all over her ears, head and neck I took her to the vet and after doing scrappings to make sure she didn't have mange or parasites they drew blood and tested for allergies of all kinds. Results came back a week later and turns out she IS allergic to a LOT of foods, chicken, turkey, duck, carrots, apples, oatmeal, soy, berries, potatoes, etc, etc ... I decided to home cook for her as opposed to buying a 'high quality' kibble or even canned, because honestly, even the high quality ones are really, really hard to find one she can have and in the long run it is WAY cheaper to home cook for her. I had a consult with Sabine and Tillie is on a simple diet that I make every week along with the vitamins and supplements Sabine put her on to make sure her diet is complete. It isn't for everyone, BUT it is for us! Tillie is healthier and I feel so good knowing I am doing what is best for her!
If you really think it is a food allergy try to get her tested. otherwise it can be a long, frustrating process full of unknowns trying to figure out WHAT they are allergic to! in the meantime I highly recomend checking out Sabine's website!!

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Bella is 4 years old and Dani is 10. Both of them would throw up after eating a few times a week and they would have stool issues. I changed food, adding this or that and even got a bowl that keeps them from gulping their food. They ate kibbles and I would even moisten the kibbles.

Everything changed when I switched to canned. They've been on canned RX (Bella) and Dani is on Wellness, canned, SIMPLE/salmon. Bella has struvite crystals and this RX food has helped her. It comes in kibble but I use the canned. Neither dog throws up any longer and there are no stool issues. Now they love to eat and dance around until I put the food on the floor (no small thing for a 10 year old!).

Canned isn't cheap, especially the quality canned, but vet bills cost even more. And they are happy and healthy. No digestive issues any longer. It might be something to try.
Right on Nancy

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Right on Tammy

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my hav had horrible 'pustules' (pus filled sores, crusted over) all over her ears, head and neck I took her to the vet and after doing scrappings to make sure she didn't have mange or parasites they drew blood and tested for allergies of all kinds. Results came back a week later and turns out she IS allergic to a LOT of foods, chicken, turkey, duck, carrots, apples, oatmeal, soy, berries, potatoes, etc, etc ... I decided to home cook for her as opposed to buying a 'high quality' kibble or even canned, because honestly, even the high quality ones are really, really hard to find one she can have and in the long run it is WAY cheaper to home cook for her. I had a consult with Sabine and Tillie is on a simple diet that I make every week along with the vitamins and supplements Sabine put her on to make sure her diet is complete. It isn't for everyone, BUT it is for us! Tillie is healthier and I feel so good knowing I am doing what is best for her!
If you really think it is a food allergy try to get her tested. otherwise it can be a long, frustrating process full of unknowns trying to figure out WHAT they are allergic to! in the meantime I highly recomend checking out Sabine's website!!

I'm not trying to hijack this thread but Panda has developed (over the last 2 weeks) the same type of little sores that are super itchy. These have come out of nowhere - her food hasn't changed, no different treats.... Can a food allergy develop out of the blue? She eats Natural Balance Limited Ingredient Chicken - could they have changed something in their processing that would cause this? I've ended up giving her 1/2 of a Benadryl the last couple of evenings just so she can get some sleep....

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Thanks to all of you who responded! Tammy, what kind of test did your vet do determine Tillie's allergies? I took Princess to the vet today and they did a CBC and Organ Functions profile blood tests. They came back clear with the exception of slightly elevated lymphocytes which, in the vet's opinion, may point to food allergy. Since Princess has been on a chicken based food since weaning, she recommended trying a different food with a different protein. I was given a pile of computer printouts of different food options, including California Natural, Wellness, Dick van Patten's Natural Balance (I had to go online to see if it is the same Dick van Patten from the old TV show 'Eight is Enough' and it is, which seems kinda weird), Innova, and EVO. Needless to say, I am overwhelmed. I plan on searching online tonight for info about these foods. Vet said if the food change does not help, she will do further testing such as an ultrasound to see if there is an abnormality in Princess' esophagus which could be causing the vomiting. I wonder if I have done the right thing in doing all this testing (I've spent $500 plus in the past 6 wks--ouch!) when maybe I should have just tried changing foods on my own.

Nancy, thanks for your input on canned. It makes sense to me that the wet food would be easier on their little tummies.

Thanks, also, Dave for reminding me about Sabine and what she has to offer. I think that would be a wonderful long term solution but, in the meantime, I need to find a non-chicken food to feed starting tomorrow.

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I am wondering do lots of Hav owners feed canned as opposed to dry kibble?

I have never thought of feeding canned solely.

Any thoughts?

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