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"Never feed your pet..."? What do you think?

Hi all,
A couple of Sundays ago in the "Parade" magazine section of the Sunday paper there was an article about pet food. A box in the corner of the article provided this list:

(quoted)
Never feed your pet...
1. Alcohol
2. Apple cores
3. Avocado
4. Bones
5. Caffeine
6. Cheese
7. Chocolate
8. Dough
9. Fat
10. Garlic
11. Grapes
12. Ham
13. Liver
14. Milk
15. Moldy foods
16. Mushrooms
17. Onions
18. Potato peels
19. Raisins
20. Tuna
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Well, several of these are "duh." But a couple of them surprise me. I thought little bits of cheese, for example, are a good treat. And liver? Isn't that a regular ingredient in some dog foods? Also I got a recipe recently for special homemade dog treats made with liver as one ingredient. No go?

What do you think?
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Yvonne, yes it can be a little confusing when you see something like liver on this list! I don't see why it would be dangerous. I just gave the boys a tiny bit of ham this a.m. and they gobbled it all up. I would think it's not good because it can be quite salty, but I'm not sure about whether it's actually dangerous! Does anyone here really know for sure? And why?

Thanks for the list, Yvonne.

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I too saw that article meant to keep it and then couldn't find it. Thanks so much for posting it. I agree while some things are a no-brainer there are a few items on the list that really surprised me too.

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I don't know why cheese, liver or tuna would be on the list. I wonder if it is an issue of quantity or certain types.
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I think some of those things are okay...in moderation. Many people feed their pets cheese, or even buy commercial products that contain cheese. Tuna, I think would go the same for pets as people, TOO much would mean high levels of mercury, but a little here and there, not a problem (except for Gucci, she throws up canned fish ) Ham, well, it has alot of nitrates and salt, and they say most dogs can just expel excess salt, unlike humans that retain it, but if the dog has any liver, heart or kidney problems, they need to be on a sodium restricted diet, usually under the guidance of a vet. Gucci doesn't like ham, so that one is easy. lol

Potato peels are dangerous if they are green or have "sprouts" on them, because of a certain toxin that develops, if the peels have no green or sprouts, they are fine... But I guess they would rather just say "potato peels" than explain why, which I guess is better than the last list that listed "potatos" as being bad.

Avocados, are mixed. Some people feed them, some don't. There is an ongoing debate about them over at the K9Kitchen group.

I use a little garlic in Gucci's diet, and she is fine. She prefers parsley or cilantro leaves, but sometimes I don't have those in the fridge and want to add a little flavor, plus...I read it keeps the fleas, ticks and mosquitos away. But again, too much of it is controversial.


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Tuna, I think would go the same for pets as people, TOO much would mean high levels of mercury, but a little here and there, not a problem
Yes, that is possibly why, but it doesn't list shark, swordfish, mackeral, escolar or orange roughy? All of those predatory fish are problems when it comes to mercury. We have orange roughy here a lot too.

Part of the problem with these lists is that they don't give the "why" behind the items. It leaves people confused and questioning everything they do give to their dogs. Heck, there are a lot of food shows for people that do the same thing. My husband loves olives and the show was all about olives, and then says, "But we all know olives aren't good for you" and continues on to say that they are beneficial. There is nothing more frustrating like creating more confusion.
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Good point!

I suppose they just assume that people wouldn't feed their pets orange roughy or shark?

I mean, who comes up with these lists? A nutritionist? An excecutive for Purina? A column writer?

Personally, I would rather give Gucci a bite of avocado than I would a cheeto, lol.......but gosh, there is SO much contradicting information out there (and opinions) that it is really hard to sift through what is fact, and what is opinion/fiction. It seems like very few things are 'agreed' upon regarding nutrition for pets.

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O.k., Kara, cut it out with the food. I'm craving guacamole and chips now!!! UGH !




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That list is quite interesting, some of them are a no brainer, but would like to know the reasoning behind Liver (used at dog show as bait, in canned foods), Tuna, Cheese, garlic (used for years for flea control), apple core.

Do you have the article and their source?

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I am also very surprised at some of those foods listed as Kubrick loves liver, cheese and tuna! I would hate to cut all of those out of his food repertoire... I do think that there is so much conflicting evidence out there that it's easy to get caught up on listing pretty much everything as bad.


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