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Hi Everyone! My 8 year old havanese has a sore, red, infected bottom!!!!I've taken him to 4 different vets and a dermatologist, who after much testing, all concur that he's allergic chicken or beef. I've had him on the zd hypo-allergenic diet plus he gets an antibiotic shot every 2 weeks, but it's not getting any better. I've tried raw duck, as well as other dog foods with other sources of protein, but nothing is helping. Topically, we've tried everything... baby diaper cream, steroid sprays, hemoroid cream, antibiotic creams, vasaline, and even olive oil, but nothing is helping! We've also tried allergy medicine. He's so miserable, I've been using pain meds for him. If anyone has any info that might help, please let me know!!!!! Thank you! Cindi
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Poor baby! That sounds terrible. I don't have any experience with allergies but I hope someone else has some advice for you. Hope he feels better soon

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Your poor baby and poor you! I know it is very distressful when we can't help our pups get better quickly. My dog Yogi has a very inflammed red rear (it is starting to get better) but his is from a uti, it hurts him when he poops and walks, he is on his 4th series of antibiotics, they will end after Nov., this means he will have been on for about 3 months, we did extensive testing and finally sent samples to NC State Vet school and they recommended the treatment he is on, he will also be tested after this course. The reason his rear is so inflamed and red is his licking it, thats what dogs do when they hurt, they lick and it colors the fur and can cause yeast.

I was told to keep the area dry and clean, so after Yogi poops I wash and blow dry his rear and distract him so he does not lick. I would suggest watching for licking and trying to prevent it. Dyes in some dog treats can cause the redness but not inflamation.

I don't know where you live, but this year has been a very bad flea season, did your Vet check for tape worms, they can cause a red sore bottom, even dogs on flea products can get them, all they need to do is eat one infected flea, the worm preventitives do not help with these, they need a different treatment. It's just a thought.

As for food allergies, I have a older Lhasa and he has a true allergy (most food allergies in dogs are not allergies they are sensitivities, like humans with lactose intolarence), Boo Boo can not have wheat or corn, they cause him to get a rash and his whole body to swell up...he then has to have IV steriods for a few days, we have not had it for years since I quite feeding the birds any mix with corn (he will go out and eat it). Also we do not feed him chicken, nothing wrong with chicken it's a matter of if they are corn fed. He has never been treated with an antibiotic shot for allergies (maybe thats new). Severe food allergies are very rare in dogs but some breeds have more then others.

I hope your pup gets better soon, if you feel the need to switch Vet's again consider a teaching hospital, in the long run is costs less and you know quickly, hopefully your pup is on the mend, try keeping the area dry and watch for licking...they will hid and do it. All the best and hope your pup is better soon.

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has your pup been tested for allergies??

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My 3 yr old black lab has terrible allergies, and from what I hear they only get worse with age. He also dealt with months of a sore red bum, and it was exhausting to him, me, and my wallet with all those vet visits and nothing working.

Since it's so difficult to narrow down what a dog is actually allergic to, I had to eliminate as many allergens as I possible could...both environmental and food.

Jazz has been on Natural Balance Limited Ingredient Diet Duck and Potato since he's been a puppy. I had him on that Prescription Z/D Diet when he was younger, but I there are other over-the-counter allergy-free foods available. You've got to find your Hav a protein that he's never ever had. Venison? Buffalo? It must be limited ingredient and grain-free. Many dogs develop grain allergies. With that said, you must limit treats and chewies to those that fall under his Limited Ingredient Diet. Also, remember that it takes about a month on a new food to see positive results. Don't switch after only a few weeks or you'll just expose your pup to more allergens.

Jazz also has flea allergies, but he doesn't get an itchy red bum from that, he loses his fur from scratching and biting at the flea bites. I use Trifexis, an oral flea, heartworm, and round worm med to keep them at bay.

I also give Jazz a Zyrtec a day. I guess it's getting popular for vets to recommend.

Hope your pup finds some relief soon.
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The dermatologist didn't recommend it, he said that Trevor would have to be put to sleep for the procedure, it costs $600, and the results aren't very acurrate. If you believe this to be wrong, please let me know, as I would try just about anything at this point If you think I should, let me know what procedure you think is a good one, I've heard of a saliva test as well as a test that's similar to our "scratch test"
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Hi Tammy and Tillie! My last post was in reply to your allergy test question
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Hi Robbie! Thank you so much for the advise....one of the doctor's concerns was the moisture since he holds his little tail down I'll try the cleaning/blow drying to see if that helps He's been tested for flees as well as other little critters, but nothing came back positive. I've had him in an inflatable cone so he doesn't lick the area. Did you have Yogi tested for allergies to figure out what he was allergic to?
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Hi Jazzfest! Thank you so much for your post! When you say it takes a month to see results, would I see anything positive or negative in the first few days, so I would know if I'm on the right track? When Jazz tried the ZD diet, did that work for him? I guess I'm surprised that it doesn't seem to be working for Trevor...I would think they would have the protein/grain thing all worked out....does the ZD diet not work for some dogs? I had one person tell me that she cooks salmon for her dog every night, but I'm concerned that it's not a balanced diet. Someone else suggested that I start with just white rice for a week, and then add salmon to that. I'd be happy to cook dinner for him if it would help, but one vet said it's not nutritious enough. I've been to the teaching vet her in Chicago, connected to the University of Chicago, and so far their approach is the same as the other 3 vets and dermatologist. (antibiotics/zd diet)
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have you considered getting a consult with a dog nutritionist if you are concerned with getting enough nutrients and would be open to cooking for your hav, it might be something to consider....

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