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Losing Big Tufts of Fur!

Hi Everyone!
Sorry I havne't been here in a while to participate. We have spent the last few days driving from Michigan to California!

I am checking in to ask a question. Ollie is still itching and scratching a lot. The vet put Revolution on him just in case it was mites. I sometimes catch him actually pulling out his fur with his teeth. Yesterday morning when I got him out of his crate, several balls of fluff came out with him! He has pulled out most of the fur on the front of his front legs and all of his coat is looking thinner. I'm worried about it, but I'm in a new place with no car yet (hubby took it to work and is working late). I thought I would ask here if anyone has any ideas since I can't get to the vet yet.

BTW...the giardia is better, the medicines seem to be working. I'll have him tested again this week once I get a car. Ollie seems to feel great, plays a lot, runs like hell around the apartment, and sleeps the sleep of the truly satisfied afterwards. He is eating well and seems to be doing good otherwise.

Thanks in advance for your help and ideas!!!!

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Hi Shelly,

I am no expert, but it sounds to me like Ollie is having an allergic reaction. What are you feeding him?

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Now he is eating Prescription diet ID Chicken and Rice upon the vet's advice until we got the giardia under control. Before he was eating Life's Abundance. But he has been doing this since I got him. (which is why the vet suspected he might have mites and applied the revolution) It's just now I am noticing floating tufts of fur around. It could be an allergic reaction to the food, but it would have to be both foods since he has itched from the beginning???

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I see too much animal planet--so I see all sorts of things--but it seems like it could be

allergy to food or shampoo etc.(make sure you get it really rinsed well)
fleas
mange

I would get him to a vet asap though.....

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Well..

Was there something common in 'both' foods? ie. Chicken? Is he eating homecooked chicken/rice right now? What about shampoo/conditioner? Detangler?

Here's what I would do...Grab a piece of paper and start charting it for the next few weeks, noting what time he eats, what he eats, anything at all you give him (supplements, treats, medicine,toothpaste etc) and see if you can "see" a common denominator. That really has helped me alot to isolate my allergies.

It 'could' be mites or even a nervous habit, but the vet can probably rule out the mites. Allergies are becoming more and more common for humans and animals, so you never know.

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We can rule out fleas...if it were the mites that caused mange, the Revolution should have taken care of it according to my vet (fleas as well, although the vet checked thoroughly and didn't see any...not many fleas in Michigan either anyway)
I changed shampoos just in case already and do rinse him extremely well. Yesterday I ordered the Coat Handler products so many people here use.

Maybe the detangler spray I've been using??? Although I noticed him itching as soon as I got him home from the breeder, so I don't think it's that. Unless he is allergic to lots of things?

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Was there something common in 'both' foods? ie. Chicken? Is he eating homecooked chicken/rice right now? What about shampoo/conditioner? Detangler?
They both have chicken. The vet didn't want me to give him home cooked chicken and rice. The ID is canned, Supposedly it is just chicken and rice plus the additional supplements and nutrients to make it balanced. Could he be allergic to chicken?

I wish I had a car today so I could find a vet! It's so weird being in a totally new place and sort of trapped!

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Yes, it could be the chicken, or the spray...or just about anything. Try charting it, maybe you'll notice a pattern that it happens exactly 2 hours after X, etc.

You may want to consider a really mild, non perfumed shampoo/conditioner until you get the itching under control. I would be careful not to aggravate it.

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If it is a food allergy, it can take a long time for the source to be eliminated from their system. My vet told me at least 2 months. I can take forever to figure out whats causing the problem. I went thru this with Tripp. Severe itching all over & very soft stools. But i put him on a raw diet & he is doing great since then. It is so hard to watch them suffer.

If you bathe him just make sure you rinse really well & use mild ingredients like Kara posted.

Its just a lot of trial & error. Good luck & keep us posted!

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How about an allergy formula dog food from your local pet shop that doesn't have chicken as a main ingredient.

I would also try home cooked chicken and rice. I switched all three of my dogs from holistic dog food to home cooked. My Hav was quite a picky eater and I always added homecooked to his kibble and two my female standard poodle Brandy started to have really bad diareah and no matter how many food brands we tried it persisted. I even had all three dog's stool tested and the results came back perfect. So, I switched to home cooked. After two days, her stools becamed completely normal (and have been normal since) she also had a canine acne that was not clearing up with any meds. I am happy to report that it has clared up as well. It seems that I am sticking with homecooked.

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