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Porphyromonas vaccine for periodontal disease

Any thoughts on the vaccine for periodontal disease? My vet recommends it. I have a few doubts about it...you know, do we have to have a medicine or vaccine for EVERYTHING?

However, my Sheltie had a terrible problem with plaque build-up and had to be anesthetized many times for teeth cleaning, which always scared me with the risks of anesthesia. Despite it all, by the end of her life we spent over $500 in one month on her teeth, had to have extractions with a gum flap, wear an e-collar for 3 weeks, and she only had 6 teeth left. It was so sad and I felt so bad.

I want to do all I can to prevent that for Tessa. A local store sells the Petzlife gel and spray and I intend to use that, plus brush. Does she still need the vaccine?

Anyone here vaccinate? Thoughts?
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I've never heard of this, Jan, so I look forward to hearing from others. I worry about Izzy's teeth and wondered what the best course of action is to prevent problems....is Petzlife gel a toothpaste? What is the spray?

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I took Gucci to a dentist consult and he suggested against it right now, Just mentioned a vaccine, but he was more 'proactive' towards prevention and daily brushing.,.he didnt say why he didn't recommend it, and I didn't think to ask.

I'm using the Petzlife products and LOVE them. They are working much better than the toothpastes and struggling to brush her teeth.

I would do some online research on the vaccine, and see what you can come up with. I doubt a vaccine alone would insure complete dental health, but who knows..it may help. Any side effects/risks?

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Judy, this is the link for the Petzlife products; I found it at our local indie pet shop that carries higher end products.

http://www.petzlife.com/

I read up on the vaccine, what little I could find online...it "may" reduce plaque, and you "may" need to give boosters. That's a lot of "mays" in my mind. However, I want to do everything I can. I just wonder if the vet is getting his education about this vaccine solely from Pfizer!
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Kara, I posted before I read your reply. I suspect your dentist isn't recommending it because it hasn't been out long enough to know if it's safe or effective? If so, good for him or her! Good to get a positive report about the Petzlife products!

P.S. Yikes...look what I just found when I googled side effects (why didn't I think to do this before????): "efficacy studies and potency validity of the vaccine is not fully demonstrated and recommends veterinary consultation prior to usage. Formaldehyde, a known carcinogen is a component of the vaccine."

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I have always had multiple cats and dogs. They have always eaten the worst foods, like Friskies and Mighty Dog. They never had tooth problems. My dogs were 16 and 17 yrs when they died, and they had all their teeth, and no tartar problems.

My vet gives a certificate when he does dental exams, and so far, Kodi and Shelby have gotten "excellent". The only thing my vet told me to do was clean their teeth with a gauze pad - no toothpaste, just the dry gauze pad. It works as a slight abrasive to remove the tartar. Their teeth are great.


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Michele, I understand some breeds develop plaque and teeth problems more than others. Shelties are notorious. I wonder about Havanese?
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My vet told me about it because small dogs have a tendency to get the disease & said it was up to me. I didnt do it. I figure if i keep on top of their dental health & keep their teeth clean & mouth healthy, i wont have to even think about it. So far so good.

Anyway, I think some vaccines are developed just to make pharmaceutical companies even more money.

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My vet told me about it because small dogs have a tendency to get the disease & said it was up to me. I didnt do it. I figure if i keep on top of their dental health & keep their teeth clean & mouth healthy, i wont have to even think about it. So far so good.

Anyway, I think some vaccines are developed just to make pharmaceutical companies even more money.
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I would try brushing the dog's teeth everyday.... I have never heard of a vaccine.

I use oxyfresh for pets and a nice small Petrodex toothbrush for Bailey... He loves having his teeth brushed. We go to a tooth fairy for his teeth to be checked every 4 months just in case I missed a spot.

Oxyfresh also makes great shampoos and ear cleaners... I also carry the products, if anyone is interested. The shampoo has a citrus smell to it and very natural and not strong.
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