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Grade B-1 Heart Murmur & Pulmonary Hypertension

Rico (8 yr. old) was diagnosed with a grade B-1 heart murmur and pulmonary hypertension this week after an ultrasound with a cardiologist. He has been prescribed pimobendon and is going back in for blood work to check med levels in a month. He'll have another ultrasound in 6 months. He had no symptoms, other than rapid breathing/panting, which he has done most of his life. I've been told to just keep up his usual routine, no restrictions in play or diet and keep an eye on it.

Does anyone know of any groups online that focus on these issues? How worried should I be?

I also got the word that Lucy tested positive for lyme on this annual visit, but will start another thread for that one.


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I am so so sorry about Rico! I don't know anything about those issues, but will pray for him. My Lexi, who turns 9 next month has been doing a LOT of panting lately, I wonder if I should have her checked??
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Oh, I'm so sorry about little Rico.

Rapid breathing and panting was previous Hav's first heart failure symptom. He was breathing 80 breaths per minute when normal is around 30. After he started heart failures meds, the respiration rate dropped to something closer to normal.

If Rico were a human, I'd be more concerned about the pulmonary hypertension. But I don't know anything about canine PH, so can't offer advice there.

Two pieces of bad news at one visit - it isn't fair! I feel bad for the worry you must be going through.
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His rate is about 60 now. Will keep an eye on that to make sure it drops. The PH was what got to me. I have asthma and know how bad it is not to be able to get enough oxygen. The vet just said to wait to see. They actually treat it in dogs when it effects quality of life, with low doses of Viagra. Now that's interesting.


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Wow, I agree, two in one visit is too much!

Bailey was diagnosed with a low grade heart murmur when he was very young. It never bothered him, but about 3 months before he collapsed, I noticed that he was panting after our walks and it was March, so not hot out yet. He then developed a cough which seemed to be there only when he awoke in the morning. His vet thought it might be related to his seasonal allergies because the cough only appeared in the morning, post nasal drip type of thing. I, at the time, was worried about congestive heart failure. She checked his heart rate and pulse and said everything was normal. I was advised to watch him and, eventually, the coughing stopped. I guess that was a precursor of what was to come. One morning after our walk, he collapsed, was rushed to the emergency facility (Sunday) and was found to have fluid in his chest. It wasn't CHF but pericardial effusion (fluid around his heart). They aspirated the fluid and his breathing got better. Unfortunately, though, he filled up again and had to be euthanized that same day.

I am not trying to scare you, as Bailey was 15 years old at that point. I am just giving you my experience, as you requested. I don't know anything about the hypertension diagnosis.

BTW, Tyler was diagnosed with a low grade heart murmur about 3 years ago and he turned 16 in July. Hang in there, as there is hope. I know that it is scary when we get these diagnoses, though.


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Re: Viagra, that's interesting - I knew it was being used in clinical trials for PH in humans, but did not know that it had reached the canine world.

Mary, sorry to hear what you went through with Bailey. I think the HF course in the canine world is very variable - a dog can live a long life with little ramifications, or it can significantly alter the dog's life span. My hav died at 13 from HF, so I guess we were somewhere in the middle.
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Deb & Mary - I do appreciate your insight on this issue. SO sorry to hear about Bailey.

I guess I'll have to let him live and just comes with whatever it brings. He's a happy active dog now. SO that's very good.


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Sorry I have no advice for you but am hoping for the best for Rico. I'm off to read you Lyme post, that's stinks two things in one visit.

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Grade B-1 heart murmur and pulmonary hypertesion

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Deb & Mary - I do appreciate your insight on this issue. SO sorry to hear about Bailey.

I guess I'll have to let him live and just comes with whatever it brings. He's a happy active dog now. SO that's very good.
Glad to hear that he's active and happy. Bailey was too, so I think it effects us more than it does them. They seem to be very resilient and take things in stride.


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Wow. That was a tough appointment for your babies and you.

My dog (who has passed now) had a heart murmur and his symptoms - which led me to the appointment where we found this out - were panting and "heat seeking" (he would want to go outside even when it was terribly hot here in NC. Anyway, he was diagnosed with heart failure. He was on Pimboden and Enalapril and eventually cough meds (with codeine) and another heart med (blanking on the name but I can get it for you) to help him when his heart was pushing on trachea and making him feel he had to cough. He lived for another two years after being diagnosed with heart failure. There are many meds to make him comfortable if this happens to be what is going on with your sweet Rico. Nomar (my dog) had many many happy moments after his diagnosis.

I'll be thinking of you. I didn't find too many resources for what we were going through - I just googled and googled trying to find a reference who would tell me Nomar was going to live forever.

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