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I recently had Tess tested for allergies and just got a call from the vet - she's severely allergic to chicken, pork, corn, mold, dust mites, 5 different trees, pollens and borderline for sweet potato, turkey & potatoes. YIKES!

She's okay for lamb, venison & rice.

I had already figured out the chicken and eliminated that from her diet by changing her to Wellness Whitefish & Sweet Potato. In the last two days she's stopped wanting much of that in the morning - takes a piece, drops it on the floor, sighs and lays down next to the bowl. In the evening, when she's really hungry, she's willing to eat it. Since she's borderline for the sweet potato, I need to get her off of it anyhow, so I guess the timing is good.

I've read through a number of threads....I'm not sure I'm ready for a raw diet and there aren't any stores in my area that sell Fromms. Wellness does have a brand called "Simple Solutions" that only has 5 ingredients - venison or duck + rice + flaxseed oil.... Has anyone had any experience with this? (The previous threads indicate a concern for the protien level but I think the majority of protien comes from animal, not plant.)

Because she's allergic to molds, trees, pollen & dust mites the vet is recommending allergy shots. Thoughts?

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I'd try a duck based food with rice - I think Wellness has one. Also Eagle Pack Holistic Select has a duck and oatmeal that I like. It stopped my Maltese's allergies right away.


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are allergies common with these little guys?

i notice mugsy has periods where he sneezes alot and at times his nose seems more wet than normal.

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i feed my dog wellness, chicken and sweet potatoe, he has a beef and i think wheat allergy. loves the food, they also make great treats. my vet told me that the smaller breeds tend to develope allergies like we do, i have benadryl, dont like to give it to him unless his is absolutely miserable. i keep his paws clean, vacumme the house all the time. etc.
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My little man might have allergies, how did you do the test with the vet? My vet said the allergy test was a waste of money and the best way to find out was to restrict his diet, but it takes sooo long, and what if what we change it too is the bad one?

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Yikes! That is a lot to be allergic to. Poor Tess. I didn't even know they could be tested. Good to know! I'd never heard of allergy shots for dogs!

How about Instinct, from Nature's Variety? They have a duck version. Fromm's has a non-grain version, Surf and Turf I think it's called. Orijen has a fish version that is non-grain as well, but not sure what you can get where you are. It's made in Canada.

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Because she's allergic to molds, trees, pollen & dust mites the vet is recommending allergy shots. Thoughts?
Hi Jill:

I just went through several months with trying to figure out Lincoln's allergies as well. For food allergies, figuring out and removing the offending food from their diet is the solution.

For environmental allergies (which are apparently much more common), the vet told me that how they manage it long term really depends on what your dog is allergic to and how often they show symptoms. For example, if your dog has an allergy to something seasonal (lasting just a short time during the year), they may treat the outbreaks with a short, tapered course of Prednisone to help them get through that time period. The rest of the time, they would not be on it.

If your dog is allergic to something environmental year round (or something that you just cannot figure out what it is), then they may elect to do allergy shots at regular intervals rather than keep the dog on Prednisone (due to its strong side effects) for a longer period of time.

I guess it just depends. You might want to ask your vet what the other possible options are vs. allergy shots, and what the +s and -s of each option are.

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Thanks for the quick responses! I'll check out the various foods - there's so many foods out there, it's hard to know what's safe & what's just hype. I feel better knowing what all of you are using and trust your opinions. I'm finding that even foods like Eagle Pack Holistic Select's Duck & Oatmeal and Fromm's use chicken fat, so I'll just have to do my research. The vet told me to be careful of the treats also since most of those use chicken fat. I picked up a variety of the Wellness treats this weekend. She seems happy with those (in fact, I suspect that's why she's turning up her nose at her regular food - "Just give me those pricey treats - thank you very much!")

You're right Jane, I need to have a detailed discussion about options with the vet.

I wanted to try and figure out the allergies on my own (I was afraid I was overreacting, that they would do the tests, and tell me she was fine) but some days she just seems miserable, even when taking benadryl - you can see her pink feet in all of her pictures from licking and her eyes just drive her nuts.

The vet did a blood test that was sent out to a company for testing (I'll pick up another brochure with the company name, the next time I'm there.) The cost for the test was about $350. We'll have to do shots every 3-4 days for the initial stage to build her up. I'll have to take her in to the vet for these - could take up to 8 months - (cost of about $260 total for the initial stage) and then every 2-4 weeks for the rest of her life ($250 - $500 annually, depending on frequency). Ultimately I'll be able to give her the shots myself.

The vet had told me I could also take her to a veterinarian dermatologist for allergy testing similar to what humans get with the pin pricks. That costs about $2,000 - $3,000 because they put them under general anethesia to do. (Made the $350 blood test sound pretty reasonable!)

I figure that compared to what others are going through with their pups right now...this is nothin'.

Thanks!

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but some days she just seems miserable, even when taking benadryl - you can see her pink feet in all of her pictures from licking and her eyes just drive her nuts.
My vet also told me that there are several different antihistamines you can try and that not all of them will work for your dog - you just have to try them because some of them won't work at all. Lincoln tried a doggie one and the Benadryl and did not respond to either.

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Jill, California Naturals has a lamb and rice that has very limited ingredients-- (and no sweet potato) my boys loved the puppy version (but it gave them the runs)




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