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I hesitated regarding the "Title" of this Thread, but sometimes you just have to get to the point! (And at least it's not another POOP Thread!)

Call me ignorant, or call me not-informed...I had NO IDEA that FEMALES have anal glands that could possibly need to be expressed!!

I just brought Molly home from her FIRST really good grooming experience...the groomer really listened to me, he was SO sweet and gentle with Molly, and she looks so cute!

But he said that as soon as he put her on the grooming table, that her anal gland expressed itself, and that it was really full! She's been to her vet check-ups, and that has never come up as a concern or a problem!

So, my question is: how can you tell that the gland needs attention? I know from reading previous Threads, that you don't "fix a wheel that's not broken" and that it's best to let it happen naturally, but is there a...warning...and what happens?

I hope this isn't grossing anyone out, but one thing I have learned on this Forum is that you can ask a dummy question, but not be told you're a dummy

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Maureen,
you're cute, I don't see why males have anal glands and females wouldn't? Everybody's got an anus, right?
Anyway, I think a sign is when dogs start skating on their butts. I'm sure other people will have better advice. But as you said, I wouldn't try to fix it if it isn't broken. Besides, an inexperienced person can do a lot of damage if they tried to express the glands, let alone the nasty smell

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Funny you should ask Maureen. Jasper just had his expressed yesterday. And I had a whole lesson on anal glands. I don't think it crosses the sexes. Had you noticed Molly scooting her butt?

I learned yesterday that Jas's anal sacs are low and loose (who knew?) I basically take him have them expressed when he starts scooting. which seems to be every 3 months or so. My groomer will do it but I feel more comfortable going to the vet

Before we found this new vet in the same office-- the woman we had been seeing emphasized a high fiber diet so that the bulked up, rock like stools express the glands. I could not however get my boys to eat a high fiber diet. But this new vet seemed to think that because of how they were positioned it wouldn't have helped.

But you can try adding pumpkin to Molly's diet or I just found these sweet potato chews-- Sams Yams-- they have the consistancy of raw hide. but have 5% fiber.

http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/produc...wz/215000.aspx

I think the thing to worry about is if the glands get impacted. For Jas they just fill up-- but the liquid is clear. So my vet wasn't worried.

I asked about having them removed (which the other vet offered as an option) but the new vet said that she would avoid it as the dogs often become incontinent.

I think some dogs have issues and some don't-- I have never seen Cash scoot.

But I use the scooting as a sign that they need to be expressed. It is possible that Molly will never need them done again.

Boy I bet you didn't expect this long winded reply about ...ummm... anal sacs.




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Wow, another "funny you should mention this". Because we took my dad's dog today to have this done. I've mentioned 100 times, she's not REALLY his. I got her from the pound, dumped her off, my sis was suppose to take her back to Ca, blah, blah, blah, LOL.
Anyways, my sis was here last wk, and said Sophie's glands were REALLY hard. She tried to express them (how she knows about this..I have no clue) Well, she'd just been in to get her nails trimmed and a cyst drained so they didn't want to take her in again the same wk.
Sooo..Dad and I took her today. ACK!! That's just the nastiest stuff, EVER. The smell, the sight, the HORROR of her howling and crying and the vet with half his hand up her bum
Guess they were REALLY, REALLY full and hard.

He said they made need done a couple times a month, every few, once a yr, or never again.
Guess you just need to pay attention to things like the dragging of the butt. Bet you could google other signs. I'd do it, but I'm still sick from this morning.

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I've never seen Molly scoot, so maybe it was just time?! I've never had any other dog (all females) that had the need for...expression.

I am going to do some (uck ) leisurely reading on the topic (OMG! only for my Molly...) and I'm thinking maybe the vet should check her out????

The groomer seemed to know what he was talking about (THAT'S the best part of all this! I FOUND A GOOD GROOMER! Molly looks SO, SO cute, and not like a crazed poodle like the other groomer did her!), but if I see Molly acting "irregular" I'll take her for a check!

Seems there is NO END to what can happen...

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get them expressed!

Daisy has had blocked anal glands three times, which have to be opened and cleaned out and then on antibiotics and meds for two weeks. It is awful to wear a cone. I look her off chicken and that seems to help.

One havvie had to have hers removed which is not only costly but can lead to potential incontenance for life. Get them expressed regularly or do it yourself. Daisy goes to the vet once a month now for hers...and we haven't had a repeat.

With Daisy there was not skooting or anything...she just started licking and there it was again.

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Can you feel or see from the outside of the dog if the anal glands need expressing? So far, there is a lack of expression around here

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I had to ask my vet to check the anal glands...doesn't seem to be one of the things the vet checks on a regular check up.

Missy was the scooter and her glands were fine and Casper never scoots and the vet said his were really full.
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Tritia, I know exactly what you mean, the howling, the pain! Sierra doesn't trust anyone who lifts up her tail since the first time they were expressed....she will try to snap...her body tenses up and she sits down....

as to how to notice they're full..... as mentioned above, but also...

"wet farts"

I can see some of you frown now.... if you have no idea what I mean, well, you will know when you smell one.....or see one....

Sierra will sit on your lap....jump off...look extremely guilty..... then you smell it.... and you see it... a little round wet spot on your trousers....
And of course it happens right when you're on route in the car to an important event and of course you don't carry around spare trousers.... the SMELL!! aarrgrghhh

When you then look under the tail, you'll see the that the fur around the bull's eye is a bit wet, and sooooooo stinky!!!

yeah.... definitely a sign of full glands hahahahaha

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Can you feel or see from the outside of the dog if the anal glands need expressing? So far, there is a lack of expression around here
Well, you can really see it from the outside when it's basically too late and they're inflamed... you then see a dark spot left and right from the bull's eye...it will feel tense and the dog might not let you press it as it hurts badly....

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