Bad Breeders - Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 01:37 PM Thread Starter
Gryff and Jinx Mommy
 
ivyagogo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Paltz, NY
Posts: 2,346
Submit Photo: 7
Photo Submissions 9 Times in 9 Posts
Bad Breeders

I was out yesterday and saw a woman with an adorable pug. This pug was on wheels and wearing a diaper. We talked for a while. The dog was only 4 years old. She got him from a breeder in Iowa. Turns out, this breeder has been doing more inbreeding than breeding. This poor dog had problems with all the vertebrae in his lower back. Surgery didn't help and he is now unable to use his back legs. Could you imagine fating a dog to a life like that for profit? What a horrible person.

ivyagogo is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 01:49 PM
Kimberly
 
Havtahava's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 10,275
Submit Photo: 5
Photo Submissions 19 Times in 13 Posts
Inbreeding isn't necessarily a bad thing. It should be left to experienced breeders though. If I get the right combination of dogs one day, I do plan to get into inbreeding, but I'm not anywhere near that stage yet.

Spine trouble isn't necessarily due to her breeding choices, but it is possible if there is a history of bad backs in the family tree. Inbreeding concentrates traits - good and bad, so it is important not to double up on the negative.
Havtahava is offline  
post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 05:25 PM
Estrella
 
EstrellaVila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 1,076
Submit Photo: 1
Photo Nominations 1 Time in 1 Post
I don't know much about inbreeding and the situation that would have caused the above, but I am so so sorry for that little pug. No creature deserves a fate like that and it is truly unfortunate. At least his owner is taking care of him in the ways that he needs and it sounds like he is a very lucky pup.

Estrella
EstrellaVila is offline  
 
post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 07:29 PM
Senior Member
 
Kathy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: California
Posts: 2,082
Submit Photo: 3
Photo Submissions 3 Times in 3 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Havtahava View Post
Inbreeding isn't necessarily a bad thing. It should be left to experienced breeders though. If I get the right combination of dogs one day, I do plan to get into inbreeding, but I'm not anywhere near that stage yet.

Spine trouble isn't necessarily due to her breeding choices, but it is possible if there is a history of bad backs in the family tree. Inbreeding concentrates traits - good and bad, so it is important not to double up on the negative.
Kimberly,
You are absolutely correct. Thank you for puting correct information on the forum.
Kathy is offline  
post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 07:36 PM Thread Starter
Gryff and Jinx Mommy
 
ivyagogo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Paltz, NY
Posts: 2,346
Submit Photo: 7
Photo Submissions 9 Times in 9 Posts
Yes, thanks Kimberly. Still, a bad breeder.

ivyagogo is offline  
post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 10:25 PM
Quincy's Mom-Vinnie too!
 
Julie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ia.
Posts: 9,923
Submit Photo: 35
Photo Submissions 17 Times in 16 Posts
It's interesting to me that she said the dog came from Iowa.Where in Iowa? Do you know Ivy? There are puppy mills,I'm sure,but I only am suspicious(pretty sure-but can not claim a definite yes) of a couple places that advertise regularly in the Sunday paper.I wouldn't know about her dog or pug's at all for that matter,but it is interesting she is saying bad breeding caused the pug's spinal problems.I see that on tv with dog's that have jumped and injured their spines or fell off a bed,chair etc.I think it's sad for the dog either way....but it is heart warming to read he has a cart to retain his mobility.

Vincent-Quincy's playmate

"Behind every unstable dog is a lesson for the owner"-Cesar Millan
Julie is offline  
post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 10:48 PM
Oreo's Mom
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Whitby, ON, Canada
Posts: 2,099
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 5 Times in 5 Posts
Yes I agree there are too many bad breeders out there in ALL breeds. Seems some so-called breeders feel that simply by having CH behind a dog means they have the 'right' to breed. What floors me the most is that temperment is neglected. For me personally, I have tremendous respect for breeders who also focus on temperment and are very selective when it comes to breeding.

Sorry, stuff like this really gets my 'knickers in a knot'!! Just my 2 cents...

Off my rant now....

"Life is too short to not follow your heart. Live, love and laugh everyday"
www.helencortez.com
whitBmom is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome