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Canine antidepressants?

Does anyone have any experience using prozac or other such drugs with any of their animals? I am sure that none of your Havs had, but any of your other dogs? I am curious to hear your experiences. After hijacking the family relationships thread, I thought I would just ask it out right.

Jasper is doing better with cars and the mail since we have taught him to heel... But my boy just lies around all day and night... he refuses to play(and Cash tries very hard but very gently to get him to play-- and so do we) we already walk him 3-4 times a day--- and he is even hiding now when we pull out the leash (the word WALK used to be the only thing that made him act like the 2.5 year old dog that he is) I know from myself, how an SSRI really let me let go of a lot of my frivolous worry (although you may read this and think otherwise...LOL) and I'm a lot happier and calmer. But I am also afraid to burden Jas with a drug and all the possible side effects... I am just looking for information, good and bad. and especially any first hand experiences you have. please know I am not considering this lightly, and do not know if I will even go there...just looking for info...

Has anyone used St John's Wort with animals?




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Hi Missy!

I think that my brother-in-law's puggle was put on Paxil by his veterinarian as a last resort due to his anxiety/depression. I am not sure as to the dosage used. This was very recent so I haven't had a chance to observe the results yet.

Hugs to you and Jasper!
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I didn't know this was even something a vet considered. I just figured it was each dog's personality. I'll be following this thread out of curiousity.

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I just browsed the internet really quickly and found this information at PetPlace.com:

Paroxetine (Paxil®):

Behavioral disorders in dogs and cats are common reasons for veterinary visits. Behavioral problems are also a frequent reason for euthanasia of pets, especially when unacceptable or dangerous animal behavior is involved.

Recently, veterinarians have begun placing increasing emphasis on animal training and behavior modification, and animal behavior specialists have adopted drugs used to modify human moods and behavior for animal use. Paroxetine is one of these drugs.

This drug increases serotonin levels in the brain. Serotonin is a chemical that facilitates transmission of "messages" between brain cells. Its effects are very similar to those of another serotonin enhancing drug, Prozac® (fluoxetine).

Paroxetine is a prescription drug and can only be obtained from a veterinarian or by prescription from a veterinarian.
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Missy, I do hope you get answers. I too was not aware of such treatment for pets. Hugs and good luck to you and Jasper.

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Hi Missy,

My hubby's sister has a german shephard that was fear-aggressive. He even bit an adult friend of theirs in the rear-end, after he seemed to be fine. They live in a secluded place, on the top of a mountain and don't have kids and are committed to keeping this dog even though they are not thrilled with how things have turned out. Anyway, he was on doggie-Prozac for awhile (a year?) and also a homecooked diet. They said it helped some, especially getting him through the exuberant puppy stage. He is about 5 years old now, I think, and I think he is not on the prozac regularly anymore. I have actually never touched this dog - they always put him in his crate in another room when we come to visit because we have kids.

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Missy, I know this is an issue you've troubled over for a long time. I've not had any personal experience with an anti-depressant for a pet but if it was me - I'd try it. You can always stop if it doesn't help.

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Thanks for not laughing at me. Jane, your story makes me happy that I don't have to crate jasper when people come over (actually it is the only time he comes alive-- he loves visitors)

does this look like a scam? it's primarily st john's wort and cammomile.

ttp://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/griefandpiningformula-support-happy-dogs-cats.html




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Missy,

I would hope that no one would ever laugh at you over something like this! You just want what is best for Jasper and you are investigating all of the options. That's good parenting! I just skimmed an article that said that St. John's Wort can be used to treat anxiety in dogs with some success, but that it shouldn't be combined with certain other medications (namely antidepressants and/or certain sedatives). I would check with your vet before starting any meds, homeopathic or otherwise, for safety and to determine the correct dosing, but I am sure you are going to do that anyway .

It's funny, before I switched fields I made drugs for big pharma as a chemical engineer, but despite that I usually recommend to people to start out with the homeopathic or most mild treatment possible, because it is easier to escalate dosing or drugs if need be than to become dependent on the stronger meds/doses that may not be necessary. Good luck and please let us know what you decide!
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Missy, I think you are being a wonderful mom to Japser and I really hope that your efforts would get help him needed treatment.

I believe in homeopathy and if you can find a good doctor, it can work in a very short time. I have a cousin (overseas) who is a professor of homeopathy and has her own successful practice and I consult her when needed for myself as well as Benji and Lizzie.

I have heard that in So Cal there are some really good vets who give homeopathic medicines. I really hope you find someone in your area.

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