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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-21-2008, 06:54 PM Thread Starter
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Talking Fable's Health Scare - ALT Elevated

I'm new to the Board and did post an intro in the general discussion forum and told a bit of our story. Now that it looks like we've neared the end, I thought I would post here in case any one else comes against this problem.

Fable has been a wonderful puppy! extremely smart (I think that's in the breed .. they're perfect dontcha know ) We took him in to get neutered at 6 months and was asked if we wanted his blood work done before the operation to test his liver. We said, of course. So, they phoned and said his ALT was elevated ... 318 to be exact. Needless to say, we didn't get the operation done. He was put on Hepato Support for a month and then we went in for another test. His ALT had gone up to 680. We were scared.

So, last week, we had the bile acid test done. I just got the results today! His before was 6.6 (normal range 0 - 16) and his after was 24.7 (normal 0 - 22). So we've ruled out liver shunt, thank god! Our vet said that we should just go on living at this point. To not feed him a high protein diet and to make sure to mention that his liver isn't perfect if he ever needs an operation so that they can change the meds around for him.

All in all it was an incredibly scary experience! I know that we now face a future of watching his diet ... and getting scared if he gets even a little bit sick .. but he's with us and doesn't need any treatment.

The saving grace .. he has absolutely no sypmtoms and all his other levels were perfectly normal

Anyways, if someone ever has questions or wants to know more, feel free to PM me

In the meantime, I'm going to go and enjoy my little man

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That is GREAT Carissa!!!!!!!!!
I'm beginning to think there almost need to be different testing parameters for our breed, if not several of the toy breeds. I have heard and read about this same experience very, very many times. Hmmmm, now I'll have to start researching that to see what the professionals are saying.
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Thank you so much Dawna I'm so happy right now I'm crying *lol*
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Thank you for posting Carissa. As you know this is a scary experience and I am sure it will help ease some fears at some point.
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Carissa, there have been posts about puppies having their liver enzymes affected by puppy shots or the first rabies shot.
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Carissa, that's such exciting news. We've got some very experienced liver issue owners who can help you with the lower protein diet to help you guy stay healthy.


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Carissa, we've been going through a journey of our own with Ricky's elevated ALT since last Nov. It was a sky-high 1200 and 1800 on the weekend we brought him into the ER back then. It's a LONG story and as you know, there is a thread about it in this section of the forum ...

It is a good thing Fable's bile acid results are good. The high ALT can be due to something toxic she got into, or some type of virus so best to monitor that in a couple of months, I think. Ricky was asymptomatic the entire 7 months, but that ALT took a long time to go down. It finally is now, so I understand about that happy crying.

There is a great yahoo group, Canine Liver health at:http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/canineliver-d/ They offer great advice, diets tried and tested, support and anything you might need.




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Thanks Carole! I didn't know that! and I thought I was doing the right thing by getting him all his shots
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Carissa, we've been going through a journey of our own with Ricky's elevated ALT since last Nov. It was a sky-high 1200 and 1800 on the weekend we brought him into the ER back then. It's a LONG story and as you know, there is a thread about it in this section of the forum ...

It is a good thing Fable's bile acid results are good. The high ALT can be due to something toxic she got into, or some type of virus so best to monitor that in a couple of months, I think. Ricky was asymptomatic the entire 7 months, but that ALT took a long time to go down. It finally is now, so I understand about that happy crying.

There is a great yahoo group, Canine Liver health at:http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/canineliver-d/ They offer great advice, diets tried and tested, support and anything you might need.
I'm so glad that Ricky is okay

Well, I know that the vet said "don't worry" and "don't need to test again". But, we'll be testing again in a couple of months, with a different vet. A vet recommended by our breeder

Thanks for the link to the group! That will help me a ton
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good news, Carissa....I can't imagine the scare!

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