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Monte may have an ulcer

First let me say I did not get much sleep last night so if I fumble or miss something I apologize.

For the past few months I thought Monte had the classic picky eater syndrome. About once ever week and a half – two weeks he would skip a meal and his belly would grumble like crazy. Every now and then he would throw up some bile so I automatically thought he just had an empty stomach. This usually would happen with his dinner meal and not his breakfast so I would wait till the next day and he would wake up eat and be full of energy like nothing ever happened.

We went away for a week in June and he would not eat his Fromms at all. So I offered him some chicken and rice and my sister gave me some of her food to try and he started eating fine. When we got back home I put him back on his normal food and he was eating great for a month with no skipped meals. Then it started up again and last night was the last straw for me, he ate his breakfast, threw up a little of that a few hrs. later and seemed fine. Then he refused his dinner and threw up bile twice later, he was drinking water and went potty so I decided to see how he was in the morning. About 3 am he got really restless in bed and started to shake like he was cold, after we got up and went potty he drank some water and seemed fine again. He ate his breakfast and went looking for his ball to play and has been fine all day but I just felt this has to end something has to be wrong. I took him to the vets to get a CBC and ask his opinion of what could be going on.

The vet felt it could be an ulcer and put him on the EN diet and Metronidozole for 2 weeks and would call me when the blood tests came back, he knew I was concerned about his liver. Well just as I was getting ready to pull out of the parking lot I look up and my vet is running across the parking lot at me saying his liver result is fine, what a guy, but he did have a low elevation of nitrogen in his blood which would also support an ulcer. We will continue on the treatment he gave and go back in two weeks. I should also have the thyroid test results by the end of the week.

I would also like to add my vet made a remark to me about the blood panel I had him do 6 months ago, he said it was nice to have a healthy base line to compare to. He also recommended changing his food from Fromms to Royal Canin, I have 2 weeks to research this food.

Monte also sends out extra kisses to Kimberly for putting up with his mom.

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Oh Leeann, I hope Monte gets to feeling better soon.

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Hope Monte feels better soon!

Question - What is the primary cause of a dog getting an ulcer??

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Leeann, I hope Monte feels better soon! Ulcers can be very painful!

I was just wondering but why did the vet feel the need for you to switch from Fromm's to Royal Canin? Does food have something to do with ulcers and did you vet say what exactly in the food would cause this?


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Question - What is the primary cause of a dog getting an ulcer??
That's a good question. I assume he hasn't been eating a lot of ultra spicey foods. LOL What does cause ulcers?


Leeann, I hope you get some positive results that will allow you to manage whatever it is easily. Please give Monte some kisses & lovies from me - just no face kisses!
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Ryan I don't know, I tried researching it but am too tired to read a lot. My vet did not want to put blame on the Fromms, he said he could just have a sensative belly to the food and it may not be for him. Riley has no issues with Fromms but it is odd how when Monte was off it for over a week he did better so I do feel that is all it is.

Paige thank you Monte is actually doing great like nothing is going on, for me I just didnt feel being sick 1/2 a day every couple of week was not right.

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Oh Leeann, I'm so sorry about Monte. Your vet sounds like a hero.

Actually, ulcers in humans are most often caused by a bacteria, not stress or spicy foods as so often thought. That's probably why he put Monte on the low grade antibiotic. I know that a lot of vets recommend the Royal Canin when they are recovering from digestive/urinary issues. Not sure why. It's not the end of the world food for now.

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Leeann, do you think it could a allergy to a certain food? Maybe something in a treat that he doesn't get everyday?

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Sorry Lina we must have been posting at the same time. My vet does not know a lot about Fromms but mentioned something about the amount that is made at one time versus the bigger name brands? His favorite is Royal Canin (shocking when a vet does not push Science diet LOL) and would like to try that first after 2 weeks of the EN diet.

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Leeann, do you think it could a allergy to a certain food? Maybe something in a treat that he doesn't get everyday?
Good thinking, I am very strict with when and what my boys get everyday, I hardly ever change my routine. The only change when he seemed better was the Fromms, he still had his daily treats.

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