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Hello - I'm wondering if anyone has experience with delayed vomiting and causes?

In mid November Max started vomiting 6 1/2 hours after he would eat (i.e. he eats at 5:00 pm and would vomit at 11:30 pm). We brought him to the vet and she performed a physical and blood work. His tests came back normal and the vet did not find anything with the physical she performed on him (oh, also checked for parasites and that was negative). She suggested we put him on a bland diet. We tried this for a week and he still would vomit 6 1/2 hours after eating (there's a pattern).

Max and I went back to the vet and they did X-rays. She said everything looked good so she said to put him on cimetidine (tagamet) until January 1st and a bland diet until March 1st. Space out his feedings and be sure to give him something to eat prior to going to bed. Max was doing really well with tagamet and no vomiting.

Than January 1st rolled around and it seems like he is regurgitating once a week (a little after he eats)....with the exception of last night, he vomited a small quantity at around 11:30 pm again.

This all started when Max was around 9 months old, he will be a year in February. The next step at the vet is to do a barrium x-ray. All in all he seems normal. He has his burst of energy in the evenings, still has normal bowel movements, he eats normal, he's not losing weight (currently is 12 lbs) so am not sure what is going on. At first I thought it was a food intolerance. Any suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated????

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do you mind if I quote you to a nutritionist I know?

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Not at all.....any suggestions or help is greatly appreciated.

He was on Nutro Source puppy than we started to migrate him off of puppy to adult Nutro Source Chicken. We have Sidney on a rotation diet between Nutro Source and Fromm.....we wanted to put Max on that same diet. At that point in time, the vet agreed that it would be okay. Right now we have him on Purina EN (prescription). I tried wetting that food and him seemed to do okay, but Max isn't really a fan of the wetted kibble.

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ok.

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Yeah I thought this was a unique question and that you gave great details. I guess there wasn't enough info for her to go on. Here's her reply.
"Nutro and Purina are both crappy foods. I would recommend avoiding them at all cost.

I can't really say much without knowing a lot more than just these few details though. would certainly be happy to work with her if desired.

Sabine "

here's her email address if you're interested . [email protected]

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Okay, this is good information on Nutro Source. It looked like it was rated okay when I did some research on the internet. The Purina EN is the bland diet the vet prescribed. I will send a request using the link you provided to see what Sabine suggests.

All in all, it sounds like you are thinking this is diet related, which is kind of a relief. Will see what the nutritionist thinks.

Thanks so much for your help!!!

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Okay, this is good information on Nutro Source. It looked like it was rated okay when I did some research on the internet. The Purina EN is the bland diet the vet prescribed. I will send a request using the link you provided to see what Sabine suggests.

All in all, it sounds like you are thinking this is diet related, which is kind of a relief. Will see what the nutritionist thinks.

Thanks so much for your help!!!
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I don't know what to think. That's why I asked her. .I've never seen this sort of a problem before so I asked her. It certainly would be a good option to see what she thinks ,as you have had no luck so far.

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Part of me wants to have the vet do an endiscopy just to ensure there are no serious health issues or even obstructions. Just not sure where to go with this. Also, I did send an e-mail to Sabine asking what I need to submit for a consultation.

Determined to figure it out......thanks again for giving me another alternative to research!

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Part of me wants to have the vet do an endiscopy just to ensure there are no serious health issues or even obstructions. Just not sure where to go with this. Also, I did send an e-mail to Sabine asking what I need to submit for a consultation.

Determined to figure it out......thanks again for giving me another alternative to research!
You're getting the best advise possible if you're consulting with Sabine and talking to Dave, so I hesitate to add my $.02, but that usually doesn't stop me.

If I've understood your replies, Max is still gaining wait and all other tests have been negative. I'm also presuming you've noticed no blood in the vomit or stool.

I'd wait to hear what Sabine has to say before going onto more invasive procedures such as an endoscopy. 6 1/2 hours is a long time after eating to be vomiting, and it makes me wonder if somehow nerves or anxiety might be in play.

Where does he sleep?
What's his bedtime routine?
How does he act before bed?

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Max's weight is fine and there is no blood in the vomit or stool. His stools seem almost too firm, but the vet's office checked them too.

If you knew Max, he is a happy go lucky dog. He sleeps in his crate next to my bed. All I have to do is say night, night and he goes in his crate no issues. Some times he starts heading up to bed with out me (likes to be in bed by 9:00 pm).

What I will say is we started to bring him to doggy daycare once a week at around six or seven months to keep him socialized with other dogs. Everyone really loves him there, so he gets a lot of attention. He does get very nervous riding in the car. Probably mid to late November, it was to the point where he was hesitent to come to me when he knew it was time to leave for day care. Also, when we get there Sidney takes off to play with everyone, but Max will watch to see where I go and try to sneak out of the fence to follow me. When he started having the issues with vomiting we stopped bringing him to daycare, wanted the vomiting to be cleared up. Because he has gotten some what better, I did bring them to day care last week and last night he vomited (very little, but still vomited). Not sure if that is related or not.

Are you thinking it could be an ulcer?

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