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Clostridium again!!!

For the second January in a row, Kodi has Clostridium. The good news is this isn't NEARLY as serious as C-diff in people. The bad news is my puppy's tummy isn't feeling so good. But he's had his first dose of abx and super-duper probiotics.

I think we caught it faster than last year too. Although he's obviously not quite himself, he had a HORRIBLY uncomfortable night last year before I could get him to the vet. This time, as soon as I saw the mucus-y diarrhea and smelled that distinctive smell, I didn't bother waiting and doing the rice diet. Straight to the vet we went!


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Oh, poor Kodi! Poor you! I don't think mine have ever had this - I guess I'd know; when Pamba first got ill, and before Protothecosis was diagnosed after months of no-body knowing anything, clostridium was suspected at one point, but soon discounted. What is the smell like, Karen? Hope the meds work really soon!
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Ah, poor Kodi! Hope the medicine takes care of his tummy problems real soon!


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Oooooh, that's not good! I hope for Kodi gets better soon and no upset stomach!


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Feel better Kodi. Tyler's tummy was a bit off today too, but no diarrhea just many trips out. Yesterday he had some yellow pepper and that may be it. He usually gets red pepper every day when I have my lunch, but the yellow may not have agreed with him. Hope Kodi is on the mend.


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So Sorry Karen, (and Kodi) I remember when this happened before, where does it come from??? Yuck "the runs" with a full coated dog is true love!!!!!Hope things improve quickly!!!

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Oh No...poor Kodi!! I can relate. I battled c-diff for 14 months.I saw an infectious disease Dr. and was on medication for months at a time. It just kept coming back after I finished a course antibiotics. It was horrible. Finally beat it though.
Hope he is feeling better quick!!!

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Oh, poor Kodi! Poor you! I don't think mine have ever had this - I guess I'd know; when Pamba first got ill, and before Protothecosis was diagnosed after months of no-body knowing anything, clostridium was suspected at one point, but soon discounted. What is the smell like, Karen? Hope the meds work really soon!
I'm not sure how to describe it. Since Kodi eats good food, there is normally very little smell to his poop. All I can say is that Clostridium makes it smell FOUL!!! When I took him in to the vet (fecal too) last year, and she was asking me about his symptoms, I mentioned that his diarrhea smelled REALLY bad. She stopped dead, and said. "I know what's wrong". She immediately too his sample and looked at it under the microscope, where she could see the bacteria. She said that the foul odor is a classic sign, along with bad diarrhea and intestinal cramps.

I guess that a certain number of one strain of clostridium is normal in a dog's gut. But they can get an overgrowth, or get infected with other types. (typically, I guess from contact with another dogs' stools, which Kodi doesn't really have access to)

He did turn around in less than two days on the antibiotics last time, so I hope, especially since we caught it earlier, that he'll feel better soon this time too. I just HOPE he doesn't blow his coat again this time, the way he did last year!!!


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Feel better soon, Kodi! I am holding my breath with the boys. There have been ducks and geese parking themselves and leaving gifts where we take the boys potty. And both of them managed to scoop up a treat before I realized what they were doing.

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I'm not sure how to describe it. Since Kodi eats good food, there is normally very little smell to his poop. All I can say is that Clostridium makes it smell FOUL!!! When I took him in to the vet (fecal too) last year, and she was asking me about his symptoms, I mentioned that his diarrhea smelled REALLY bad. She stopped dead, and said. "I know what's wrong". She immediately too his sample and looked at it under the microscope, where she could see the bacteria. She said that the foul odor is a classic sign, along with bad diarrhea and intestinal cramps.

I guess that a certain number of one strain of clostridium is normal in a dog's gut. But they can get an overgrowth, or get infected with other types. (typically, I guess from contact with another dogs' stools, which Kodi doesn't really have access to)

He did turn around in less than two days on the antibiotics last time, so I hope, especially since we caught it earlier, that he'll feel better soon this time too. I just HOPE he doesn't blow his coat again this time, the way he did last year!!!
If it's similar to the C. Diff that people can get, his contact with stools' of other dogs can be microscopic. That is, another dog can have it, the owner can be a responsible pet owner and pick up the stool, and the infection can live for a bit on the surface. C. Diff is tricky b/c it's so contagious. In inpatient hospitalized patients they require isolation equipment. (Ie, those paper robes over the physicians/nurses clothes and gloves even for casual contact). In addition, b/c it's spread by spores, the anti-bacterial gels/alcohol outside of hospital rooms can't kill it. Only soap and water work, because alcohol has no effect.

Poor Kodi. I hope he's feeling better soon. Plus side, you caught it super early and mild cases are easy to treat.
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