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Types of Food For Havanese

I've been tortured by our vet who insists that we get Cassidy onto one of his Science Diet formulas of food. But, EVERY vet I've seen has advised Science Diet or Royal Canine...bought from them, of course.

Cassidy had been on Hills ID formula because of a sensitive digestive tract since we got him. Four Parasite tests later, it's negative for ALL parasites.

I've weaned him off (very slowly) onto a Duck and Potato formula (Natural Balance LID) as the ID is pure corn, corn and a bit of chicken and more corn. It was great for acute phases but, I cannot stomach him being on strictly a corn diet. He's now nearly 11 months old.

So, it's time to switch him over to something else because (according to the vet), Natural Balance LID is pure "puppy food" being "All Stages" and would be too much for him as an adult dog. Again, he insists on food bought from him, which is way past price with his mark-ups.

I had all of my animals on a formulation of Science Diet but, this baby, I am shying away from it because I have had nothing but health issues with my pets, in spite of the cheerleading vets over this food.

Anyone else finding that vets are over-promoting foods from them?

Any suggestions as to good foods for Havanese?
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I wouldn't buy any food recommended by a vet. If you dog has issues I would recommenid a consultation with Sabine. She has done this for numerous forum members for a nominal fee. Email me privately for more info if you are interested. She's a pet nutritionist. out of Los Angeles and does everything online. The best money you'll ever spend.
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I don't trust vets either. My foster had a sensitive tummy. I tried everything!!! All the expensive stuff gave him the runs. I finally realized he only did well on the cheap stuff. When he left here he was doing great on Natural Balance Grain free limited ingredients fish and potato formula I think.

I feed Stella & Chewy and Primal raw diet to my boys. Bella get Ziwipeak.





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This video is an easy to understand overview of species-appropriate canine nutrition. It's by Karen Becker, DVM but she does not shill for Science Diet, and steers away from dry foods in general citing chronic low-grade dehydration in dogs.

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I don't trust vets either. My foster had a sensitive tummy. I tried everything!!! All the expensive stuff gave him the runs. I finally realized he only did well on the cheap stuff. When he left here he was doing great on Natural Balance Grain free limited ingredients fish and potato formula I think.

I feed Stella & Chewy and Primal raw diet to my boys. Bella get Ziwipeak.
The comment about your foster, Linda, is very interesting to me. After all the years (about 14) of Tyler eating cheap, junk kibble, I tried the good ones, Fromm, Acana, etc. and found them too rich for him, causing soft stools. I then tried NB LID sweet potato and fish and his stools firmed right up. I now use HK Force or Zeal with good results, but as a topper for his NB kibble, as I don't want to upset the apple cart. I also give him NB sweet potato and fish treats, plus grain free Buddy Biscuits, all with good results. Some sure do have sensitive little tummies!


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The comment about your foster, Linda, is very interesting to me. After all the years (about 14) of Tyler eating cheap, junk kibble, I tried the good ones, Fromm, Acana, etc. and found them too rich for him, causing soft stools. I then tried NB LID sweet potato and fish and his stools firmed right up. I now use HK Force or Zeal with good results, but as a topper for his NB kibble, as I don't want to upset the apple cart. I also give him NB sweet potato and fish treats, plus grain free Buddy Biscuits, all with good results. Some sure do have sensitive little tummies!
I know its crazy!! We tried taste of the wild, Fromm and I think one other. Once I just added a little pumpkin to his NB LID and it gave him the runs! He was going every couple hours! He was with me for 3 months in total and only had firm poop for about 2 weeks. It was a rough road...





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I know its crazy!! We tried taste of the wild, Fromm and I think one other. Once I just added a little pumpkin to his NB LID and it gave him the runs! He was going every couple hours! He was with me for 3 months in total and only had firm poop for about 2 weeks. It was a rough road...
Linda, I suspect some of that may have been anxiety. (worsened by different foods, possibly) Foster dogs have often gone through a lot by the time the get to their foster home, and even though they can be given the best of treatment there, they can still be anxious, just because of all the changes in their lives.

We got a (long haired white) cat from a rescue many years ago. For the first THREE YEARS, every time we went away, either while we were packing or shortly after we left home or as soon as we got back, she'd get diarrhea. We finally had to tranquilize her shortly before we left, and have whoever was caring for her while we were gone tranquilize her again when they knew we were getting home. Even these short separations were too much for her. Fortunately, eventually it stopped happening. She's 14 now, and it has been many years since we had to tranquilize her. But it's amazing what anxiety will do to their little bodies!


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I thought about it being stress but he's not having any problems in his new home. Maybe I stressed him out!! Lol





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I've been tortured by our vet who insists that we get Cassidy onto one of his Science Diet formulas of food. But, EVERY vet I've seen has advised Science Diet or Royal Canine...bought from them, of course.

Cassidy had been on Hills ID formula because of a sensitive digestive tract since we got him. Four Parasite tests later, it's negative for ALL parasites.

I've weaned him off (very slowly) onto a Duck and Potato formula (Natural Balance LID) as the ID is pure corn, corn and a bit of chicken and more corn. It was great for acute phases but, I cannot stomach him being on strictly a corn diet. He's now nearly 11 months old.

So, it's time to switch him over to something else because (according to the vet), Natural Balance LID is pure "puppy food" being "All Stages" and would be too much for him as an adult dog. Again, he insists on food bought from him, which is way past price with his mark-ups.

I had all of my animals on a formulation of Science Diet but, this baby, I am shying away from it because I have had nothing but health issues with my pets, in spite of the cheerleading vets over this food.

Anyone else finding that vets are over-promoting foods from them?

Any suggestions as to good foods for Havanese?
Most Vets will promote a certain type of food and will tell you is THE BEST for your puppy, but in reality, many of them, can care less what you feed.
Have you consider feeding Raw? These days, there are many excellent commercial raw diets out there.

Here is a link about Raw Feeding

and Here is a link for detail reviews on all types of Dog Food (menu on the left of the page).

Hope this helps!

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I think a blanket statement like don't feed them anything a vet recommends or I don't trust any vets isn't fair.

Are there vets who are motivated by $$$,? Sure.

Are there vets who sincerely care about the health and welfare of our havs? Yes there are. They may actually have a different opinion on what help makes a healthy dog.

There are good and bad ones, just like doctors, lawyers and animal trainers and behaviorists.

Asking a question on a forum or following a link someone here provides does not take the place of your own thorough research and arriving at your own individual decision.

Best of luck in whatever you decide.

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