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Don't do what I did !

It is very hard to admit that I failed my sweet Zoey. I had tried brushing her teeth at a young age and then just gave up. I noticed bad breath about six months ago and looked at her mouth. I think I even wrote and asked if I could get the tarter off myself. I spent about a week being concerned then just pushed it away. I have a feeling it was already to late by that point. I have learned that bones and chew toys do not clean a small breeds teeth! I'm sure some of it is hereditary and genetic.Just like us humans who some have natural good teeth. About a mo ago I noticed her not eating her treats as fast as maddie. But she does gobble her food .
The other night she started licking her bottom and I noticed it really red and swollen. Before the other night she had really bad poops for about a month and I noticed her bottom seeming a bit hard . So I bought some canned food and a dry with more fiber in it. She seemed better and her poops got back to normal.
I took her to the Vet Tuesday morning. The vet said her bottom was very sore looking and it was her anal glands. He did a physical and got to her mouth and just said oh my. He showed me her back tooth just practically hanging it was so loose. He then found her front teeth to be very loose also. He said its a real problem with small breed dogs and I should have been brushing her teeth every day .A little dog cant just chew on a bone like a large dog. I told him I know people that feed Raw and their dogs don't have a problem. He said he would like to see their mouths before he could agree with that.
Anyway I still haven't looked all the way in to her mouth because she is sore. The vet said he pulled a bunch of teeth told me what he left but I was in shock. I still am but I'm getting better.
I writing this to try to educate new puppy owners and anyone else who doesn't brush their Havanese teeth.
She tore some during her anal extraction. He said she was very bad and under was very hard. So she had to come home with a cone on her head. First she got her paw stuck in it. Then she took her paw and just pulled it off. Last night she was so sweet and came to give me my usual kiss and I got woken up with plastic hitting my face.
I'm now worried as to why she got so bad. We have never had a problem and has never had to be extracted before. I'm just going to try a second new food and also add pumpkin. Cross your fingers that her bottom heals and stays that way.Because it can mean other problems too.
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Oh wow! Wishing you lots and lots of luck!

I am bringing a pup home on Monday and will head your advice, thank you for sharing!
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awww I'm so sorry hope Zoey is feeling better soon!

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I hope Zoey feels better real soon. Thank you so much for sharing this. It is so easy to skip brushing our dogs teeth when we get busy with other things, especially if they are not good about letting you do it. I for one am going to make a better effort to do it every day now.

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Aww poor baby. I hope Zoey feels better soon. She is sweet by giving you a kiss and probably saying "its okay mommy". Thanks for the reminder - I have to admit, Im not on top of it as I should be. Your post made me go brush their teeth, Hunter is the only one that actually likes it. The other three its a struggle, Rox only acts like she likes b/c she sees Hunter doing it. Vino is the same way, he loves licking their mouths while Im trying to brush them but as soon as he sees its his turn, he'll sit and take it but fights it. Canela just RUNS away; she has a tiny mouth compare to Vino. I'm actually thinking of getting a kids electric tooth brush for them, but not sure. Canela has a vet appt tomorrow, I wonder what he will say about her teeth.

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Oh, Suzi, i'm so sorry for poor Zoey. I have made it a point to brush teeth every morning after breakfast and, thus, it becomes routine and something that's expected. I have been fortunate as my dogs have tolerated and even learned to like it.

I know you feel guilty, but you can move on from here and do what's needed going forward and feel good that you have helped others with your "confession". Hope Zoey feels better real soon.

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thanks for the reminder Suzi, So true , small dogs are more prone, and it can be genetic. 70 per cent or something like that, have tartar issues over the age of three I believe are the stats for all dog. I like these words ....
" I want to feed a home made,cooked diet – but don’t we need kibble to clean teeth?

In a word, no. You need raw bones and/or a good toothbrush and a bit of discipline to brush regularly. Some dogs will tend to get plaque more readily than others; some can’t tolerate raw bones, some will maintain a clean healthy mouth on a raw diet with little effort from their guardians. And no question, maintaining good oral hygiene is critically important for systemic, longterm health. but kibble won’t do it – in fact, it’s the worst thing you can feed for healthy teeth and gums. This is a huge myth. Feed raw, safe bones, brush, use a balanced raw diet where appropriate. Kibble fed dogs have the worst oral hygiene I’ve seen" ... The Possible Canine
for us brushing DAILY is a must.

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Does anyone have a particular brush they would recommend?
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I'm going to look in her mouth today and count how many are left. She wants to play ball but I think I'll wait a few more days. she did yawn and I saw two bottom canines and about for or five back teeth.
Dave dint you think its strange that after all these years not having any anal gland problems. She had been on the same food for 5 mo. I switched because she didn't do well on Acanna here stools were to soft. This food was very simple but now were trying First Mate only because my food store gave me like five samples and both Zoey and Maddie choice that one. Thay turned their nose to four out of five.I think its made in Canada!

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Does anyone have a particular brush they would recommend?
I just use the little dog tooth brushes they sell at Petco. They also sell little terrycloth finger covers that you can use instead of a brush. Some dogs tolerate these better. Kodi doesn't mind, so I just use the brush.

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