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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-24-2009, 05:57 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Degenerative joint problems in Jackson

I have not been on much this summer as it has been busy . . . we have also been trying to figure out why Jackson kept having an on and off limp for several months. We thought he had sprained his leg playing . . . it got better . . . and then it would keep reoccuring. My vet was out of town, but the other vet could find nothing wrong . . . Jackson would not even wince no matter what she did.

After he started obedience class last month, I started noticing his gait seemed off and then by the end of class he would be limping. There is also a precious 6 month old Hav in the class who has such a nice prance that Jackson seems to never have had . . . he would act like he was hurting by the end of class and would rather sit. I finally insisted on x-rays, and sadly, Jackson has some degenerative bone disease in his wrist and shoulder joint in one leg which she assumed was probably an improper growth structure in the joints. The radiologist did not think he needed surgery, but my vet suggested mild use of Previcox (1/4 to 1/2 pill for pain) and Cosequin for supplements (my suggestion actually!) I have been pretty down about this as I am now worried that if he is not even two yet, what will it be like five years down the road? He has been on the Cosequin for two weeks, and the directions say it can take 4-6 weeks for results. I had hoped to do therapy with him, and wasn't even considering agility (thank goodness), but he only seems to be totally pain-free when he takes the Previcox. The vet is cautious about too much of that, and so am I, so I guess I'll just need to be a little bit more patient to see if he improves.

I have not contacted the breeder yet, but am considering it. At first the vet thought he had mild CD which totally freaked me out, but the radiologist said no. His blood work was also perfect (whew!) I did see somewhere that 40% of all Havs had some kind of irregularity in their front legs??? I have not had the back legs x-rayed but am now considering it when he's two just to make sure. He bounces around all the time on those, so I think they're OK, but am still nervous.

Has anyone else had experience with young dogs having with shoulder and wrist problems? It's odd to me that Jackson could run like the wind until he was 1 1/2, and then all of a sudden he started limping. I would love any suggestions anyone has . . . you all are always so full of wonderful advice. Thanks!

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Hey Kathy, hope someone wiser than me will chime in and give you great advice and hope. The only thing I can think of why he was OK for 1.5 years and then started limping, is that he may have had just enough cartilage in both joints to keep him going but it wore off in time.

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Kathy so sorry to hear this. I hope you get some good answers. In the meantime, I will be thinking of you and Jackson and hopes for encouraging feedback.

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I don't know anything about this, but I hope they can come up with something to help the poor boy. His friends send hugs and kisses!





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Kathy, I am sorry to hear about Jackson. I wish I had some answers for you, but I don't know anything about degenerative bone disease. I hope the Previcox and Cosequin will help, and I really hope that he won't get much worse. Hopefully someone here has experience or knowledge in this area. I know you must be very worried about him.
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I just want to say how sorry I am for you and Jackson. Although he has never been diagnosed with anything wrong. Jasper gained a whole lot more spring in his step after starting joint supplements and fish oil (it's a long story why we started) And his whole mood changed. It took about 3 weeks. So give the supplements time... Cash too has improved and he does have some joint issues. We use Glycoflex 1. I like them because they come in soft chews and the boys love them.




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So sorry to hear of Jackson's problem with his front legs. Puppy kisses from Murphy and tummy rubs from me.

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Thanks, everyone, for your kind thoughts and the "bump," Maryam. I look at at that photo of Pablo and Jackson running on the baseball diamond (love that it made the calendar!), and that's the ultimate RLH that all Havs should be experiencing. At least Jackson isn't a racehorse (you know what they do to those sometimes )

Missy, I appreciate the recommendation on the soft chews . . . I saw those in one of the catalogs (along with a million other supplements), and I do have to crush the Cosequin or Jackson picks it out of his food. I will try to be patient to give everything time to work, and I can always slip in a little Previcox if we have a playdate going on (which we are having this weekend . . . thank goodness it's with the 4 lb. Morkie and a puppy!) I know it could be a lot worse, but I just don't want my little boy to be in pain.

I'm still hoping to hear from someone else who has dealt with early arthritis in the joints . . . and realize that a lot of you are still recovering from the National Show (I am so jealous . . . looked like so much fun!)

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