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post #21 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-16-2016, 05:53 PM Thread Starter
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Oh, well! We had the same thing happen on our last show weekend. Sat.'s judge loved her, and put her up over the exact same dogs that beat her with Sun.'s judge. And in her case, she actually showed better on Sun. than she had on Sat. Judges have their preferences!
If Pamela Peat is ever judging in your area, I would highly recommend you try to show to her. It wasn't just the type of dog she preferred (sturdy but not too big, spunky, showy) that made her a good fit for us; she was very warm and chatted while doing her table examination, she didn't fault for a little puppy behavior, and she sought us out after our group win to congratulate us. Class act.
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The killer is that the show this weekend has a major up for grabs... And she's in heat. I kow that TECHNICALLY I could still take her, but I don't want to take any chance with a big dog getting amorous and scaring her, and I also don't want her two brothers, who will also be showing to be idiots. So we'll sit this one out <sigh>


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The killer is that the show this weekend has a major up for grabs... And she's in heat. I kow that TECHNICALLY I could still take her, but I don't want to take any chance with a big dog getting amorous and scaring her, and I also don't want her two brothers, who will also be showing to be idiots. So we'll sit this one out <sigh>
Totally understand that. You're making the right decision on sitting it out. I know a few brave souls with lots of experience will go for it, but I would be WAY too jittery.

Are majors easier to find out there? After this weekend, we now have two or three local bitches, including one of our breeder's, who only need one major for their championship. Majors have been nearly impossible to find, and our next one doesn't have one either. The point schedule is certainly going to change coming up. Activity in the breed has slowed way down; the woman who owns Nino's brother and I are a couple of the Hav only owner-handlers in the area who don't also breed.

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Totally understand that. You're making the right decision on sitting it out. I know a few brave souls with lots of experience will go for it, but I would be WAY too jittery.

Are majors easier to find out there? After this weekend, we now have two or three local bitches, including one of our breeder's, who only need one major for their championship. Majors have been nearly impossible to find, and our next one doesn't have one either. The point schedule is certainly going to change coming up. Activity in the breed has slowed way down; I'm one of the only owner-handlers who doesn't also breed.
Not really. We'll still probably have to travel to find majors without waiting a long time. The problem for some of the clusters is you just don't KNOW whether there will be a major (there might be) until you've already entered and spent a lot of money over several days. Most of the clusters are at a venue about 2 hours from us. There is also the Cranberry Cluster on Cape Cod in Sept. But since that one is outdoors there is less chance of a major, especially on the week days. We do have several breeders in the area with puppies or young open dogs showing right now. They all owner handle, but they are all GOOD, and they are also very well known to the judges.

Panda still needs points though, of course, so the smaller numbers are OK too for now. He half brother (same litter, different sire) has been showing at the same shows as she has, but since their breeder put him with a handler, he has gone to SEVERAL shows that she hasn't gone to. He has done well, though, and has all the points he needs. SO now they just are on the hunt for majors. The breeder feels that the same judge isn't likely to like both of them equally, because they are quite different in type. He's a lot larger, Irish Pied sable with a lot of coat. She is a little tank, but a LITTLE tank. She's got her pretty B&W markings, and a lighter, silkier coat. She's also by far the flashier mover of the two.

Now their other show sibling is also in the ring. He started later than either Mynas or Panda, (also with the handler) and I'm not sure if he has any points yet. But he's also a very nice dog too.
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Not really. We'll still probably have to travel to find majors without waiting a long time. The problem for some of the clusters is you just don't KNOW whether there will be a major (there might be) until you've already entered and spent a lot of money over several days. Most of the clusters are at a venue about 2 hours from us. There is also the Cranberry Cluster on Cape Cod in Sept. But since that one is outdoors there is less chance of a major, especially on the week days. We do have several breeders in the area with puppies or young open dogs showing right now. They all owner handle, but they are all GOOD, and they are also very well known to the judges.

Panda still needs points though, of course, so the smaller numbers are OK too for now. He half brother (same litter, different sire) has been showing at the same shows as she has, but since their breeder put him with a handler, he has gone to SEVERAL shows that she hasn't gone to. He has done well, though, and has all the points he needs. SO now they just are on the hunt for majors. The breeder feels that the same judge isn't likely to like both of them equally, because they are quite different in type. He's a lot larger, Irish Pied sable with a lot of coat. She is a little tank, but a LITTLE tank. She's got her pretty B&W markings, and a lighter, silkier coat. She's also by far the flashier mover of the two.

Now their other show sibling is also in the ring. He started later than either Mynas or Panda, (also with the handler) and I'm not sure if he has any points yet. But he's also a very nice dog too.
The unknown of majors until the show is closed is a problem the few I mentioned have been running into. Our breeder has entered but not shown in three shows so as to not take away singles and doubles for those that actually need them. I understand the reasoning behind not displaying any info on the entry until later, but it sure would ease a burden The problem we will run into will be finding anything over a single. Because there are so many breeder-owners in the area, it's just Nino and Frankie locally for class dogs. It would take a weekend with two out-of-towners to bump it up to two points for them. We aren't in a hurry to finish him, so I'm not too irritated...it just may take awhile.

Nino and his littermate also have their differences (same parentage for them), though both are nice looking Havs. Frankie has a pound or two on him, and he's a bit longer with a different coat. It will be interesting to see how it grows out, because right now Nino is the one looking like the rest of the family. They have the same black and white, but Nino moves faster and with more of a jaunt (as long as he doesn't gallop...yikes). It's crazy how the breed varies, even from sibling to sibling. Like a box of chocolates, these guys

Presuming she's out of season within the next 2 or 3 weeks, when is your next show? We have just one weekend off before our next one on the 27th, and then things really start to heat up. Four within 6 or 7 weeks, and one of those is out of town (but we are still deciding on that one). Thank goodness it's something I enjoy.

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She would have been showing the next two weekends, and now won't be. After that, the only shows before the Cranberry Cluster in mid-Sept. are far enough away that I'd have to send her off with the handler. I haven't decided that I'm willing to do that. . So she won't show until the Cranberry Cluster!
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Congrats to you both!! Nino sure is doing his thing out there!
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