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An Easy Decision

We had a show this weekend, and on the first day I made the decision to hang up Nino's show hat, at least for the time being. He doesn't enjoy it anymore and was absolutely miserable day 1. My confident boy was spooking, he couldn't keep his attention on the ring, and he just wanted to lay down and sleep while grooming. He shows so well, but he just was so unhappy the few hours leading up to being in the ring.

I wouldn't have shown him at all yesterday, but the major would have broken had I not, and I wasn't about to do that to the others. So I made it the most fun Nino could ever have at a show. No grooming his butt, super yummy bait, he got to do his tricks in the ring while others went instead of standing around. His tail didn't stop wagging the entire time, and he ended up going reserve to the major (go figure).

This wasn't a difficult decision for me to make. I love showing and the friends I have made through it, and I will be back in the ring with my next dog (who knows...maybe once Nino matures a bit he will enjoy it more...until then he is an agility dog). I have always said the moment he stops enjoying something is the moment he is done, and I have no qualms in following through on that. Nino is my best boy and the happiest, goofiest dog around, and to see that changing, even if just for a few hours, broke my heart.

I will make a couple comments on the show, though. The Havanese is a breed meant to be shown naturally. I have no issue with using a little spray to keep bangs back and fluffing a dog up with a blow dryer, but seeing people taking a flat iron to their dog, oiling down a bad coat, and/or backcombing so their level topline rises at the rump is horrifying and ridiculous. I saw so many level toplines and no flash of pad during movement. Sad to see the direction our breed is moving.

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Even though I know little about showing a dog, I know you made the right decision. I didn't know that people went to such extremes on grooming the coat though!
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You are a super Mama, Sophie. Good for you.

In another slight slant off that topic, I love Havs in full coat, but I have always said that if grooming ever becomes unpleasant for either Tucker or me, I will trim him down. As he has gotten older it seems to hurt when his legs are combed. So, now that he's ten, I will be trimming him down, when I can bear to do it.

Looks and prestige doesn't matter nearly so much as giving these pups the happy lives they live for.
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Good mom. Happy pup.
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Congratulations on putting Nino first! I have never shown Ricky in Conformation, but his former owner, a breeder, did show him and Ricky did well, scoring first in every how he was in as a puppy. But it became obvious that Ricky was not enjoying it and he started showing it physically. The breeder decided to sell him because all she was interested in were titles to make her breeding stock more valuable. So Ricky was sold to us. Ricky is much happier now. He is a high energy dog and likes to play several times a day. He loves working in Obedience competitions because it is just a game to him. We will start Agility training this summer. It has been a "Win/Win" for Ricky and us. The minute Ricky doesn't enjoy competition of any type, he will be retired and we will just play together casually as much as he wants.

Regarding Conformation Havanese, I agree with you. Too often I see show Havanese trying to look like Shih Tzu or Maltese or something other than what they are naturally. In my opinion, showing a Havanese with straight hair would be a major defect and cause for a major deduction in the show ring. I believe there is too much emphasis on what a Havanese should look like in Conformation. I would rather have a happy dog than a perfect looking dog. Ricky is happiest when his fur is a mess! When we comb him out each day, the first thing he does is shake himself out to get the fur the way he wants it. And that is fine with us.

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Even though I know little about showing a dog, I know you made the right decision. I didn't know that people went to such extremes on grooming the coat though!
Oh, there is Soooo much that they do... Not everyone, for sure, but lots.


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Well, Sophie, it seems that the "look-alike kids" are both taking at least an extended break from the show ring. It was fun showing Panda some last summer, but we just aren't getting majors in this area, and I'm not invested enough in showing in conformation to want to travel far afield for it. I know that if she can win even with me at the other end of the string, (which she has) she could finish pretty easily. But I WON'T send her out with a handler, either.

She's very close to being ready to start competing in Rally and Obedience, and she's coming along really well in Agility too. I'd rather spend time and money on events that we BOTH enjoy. I'm not saying I'll never the her back in the conformation ring, but I'm not feeling any urge to do it right now!

And, Sheri, I applaud your decision to do what's best for Tucker in terms of grooming, even though I know what a hard decision it is... I've told Kodi HIS coat won't stay if it ever becomes a burden for him too. It would KILL me to see him lose his long, glorious coat, but if it made him happier, that is what would be most important. It might be a LITTLE easier for me, because I already made the decision for Pixel, and I'm very happy with it for her... It suits her so well. But I'm pretty sure it will make me cry when Kodi's coat goes.
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After seeing Nino in your agility videos I can hardly blame him for not liking the confirmation ring!
What a snoozfest compared to all that FUN running, jumping and equipment to play on with mama running and having fun too!
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Well, Sophie, it seems that the "look-alike kids" are both taking at least an extended break from the show ring. It was fun showing Panda some last summer, but we just aren't getting majors in this area, and I'm not invested enough in showing in conformation to want to travel far afield for it. I know that if she can win even with me at the other end of the string, (which she has) she could finish pretty easily. But I WON'T send her out with a handler, either.
Thought I should mention how close I found myself to having a Panda situation this weekend. Corinne is off to work for a handler for the next 3 months, and I darn near brought home a 6 month old puppy she has to train and continue to socialize for her until she got back. The puppy ended up going home with a junior who is interested in the breed, but I was surprised at just how easy it is to have a puppy "follow you home" Nino would have been so pleased...he got along great with the him.
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