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Rally Run-throughs

Miss Panda was awesome tonight at her second-ever rally run-through (the first was 6 months ago): https://youtu.be/qgvAMe8HsPw

The only problem is that to do Novice, we have to get used to handling that danged leash!
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Woo Hoo Miss Panda, that was awesome. Well done Karen.
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Miss Panda was awesome tonight at her second-ever rally run-through (the first was 6 months ago): https://youtu.be/qgvAMe8HsPw

The only problem is that to do Novice, we have to get used to handling that danged leash!
Panda looks great! I see lots of ribbons coming her way

OMG LEASHES!!! I am sooo awkward with it. I do walks with a 10 footer that has some weight on it and do pretty good. But the 6 foot leather the trainer asks us to use gets me all tripped up for some reason.
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Panda looks great! I see lots of ribbons coming her way

OMG LEASHES!!! I am sooo awkward with it. I do walks with a 10 footer that has some weight on it and do pretty good. But the 6 foot leather the trainer asks us to use gets me all tripped up for some reason.
I use 6' leashes with all my guys for casual walks, and even for obedience, a 6' leash is fine. But there are so many rally moves where you have to pass the leash behind your back, from one hand to another, and if the leash gets tight, even for a split second, it's a 1 point deduction every time. I train my dogs competition heeling completely without leashes, so it's something we don't practice often until shortly before we have to go in the ring.


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Oh, that was so good Karen and Panda! She is heeling beautifully! If you don't mind me asking, did you use a certain technique (book, video, persons) to teach her? I'm kinda stuck with Layla off leash and would really like to continue with Rally, but she's just not solid enough.

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Panda looks great! I see lots of ribbons coming her way

OMG LEASHES!!! I am sooo awkward with it. I do walks with a 10 footer that has some weight on it and do pretty good. But the 6 foot leather the trainer asks us to use gets me all tripped up for some reason.


I love these leashes! I have a 4', 5', and 6' one and they are really lightweight, but strong. The lady does a beautiful job on them. I didn't have any of the bling put on mine (i don't want it getting in my way), but you could.

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Amazing job! She was stuck to you like glue. Thanks for sharing the video.

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Amazing job! She was stuck to you like glue. Thanks for sharing the video.
Thanks, her heeling is really coming along.


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Oh, that was so good Karen and Panda! She is heeling beautifully! If you don't mind me asking, did you use a certain technique (book, video, persons) to teach her? I'm kinda stuck with Layla off leash and would really like to continue with Rally, but she's just not solid enough.
We start using "chin heeling", which is BRUTAL on the back with little dogs, but DOES produce about the prettiest heeling I've seen. But you really need to start it when the dog is a puppy. It's harder for older dogs to really internalize. We also use Denise Fenzi's "pocket hand". This takes some bending initially, but with little dogs, they pretty quickly get the idea of lining up under your hand. We do LOTS precision work on position, fronts, finishes, pivots. and heel one step, click reward.

We keep heeling training VERY short (only a few steps to start) mixed in with LOTS of play. We also spend a lot of time reinforcing the dog's ability to ""find heel" from anywhere. We send them away to circle a cone or fly pole, then turn and move away, so they need to hurry to catch up, then reward big time when they make an effort to get back.

Once they are more confirmed, and understand the game, we STILL keep it short. (remember, even a rally run is rarely more than 2 minutes of heeling, and that is all broken up. A formal obedience heel pattern is typically well under a minute) We also make it fun and unpredictable. Heel fast into a halt. Do a recall, and instead of a formal finish, immediately heel off. In the middle of heeling toss a cookie to the side, tell the dog "get it" and run away. Have a party when they "catch" you...

Here are "Pocket Hand" set-ups when Panda was well under a year: https://youtu.be/bP--Xqu4dz8

Here's starting "Chin Heeling". once the dog is confirmed with putting their chin in your hand, you start taking it away for more and more steps. It's a FANTASTIC tool with big dogs, that can be used to navigate through crowds throughs their lives. With the little ones, it's so back breaking that I wean away from it as soon as I can... sooner than is optimal, but my back can't take any more!!! : https://youtu.be/DBeXgNOML0U

Here's a short bit of "motivational heeling in class with Kodi one night: https://youtu.be/2DbHgfPc0TQ

Of course he's a much more experienced dog, but this gives you an idea what I'm talking about. We virtually NEVER work on "training" heeling on leash. If the dog doesn't choose to stay with us, it's our job to reinforce that desire by making heeling the most fun thing EVER! Kodi loves heeling so much at this stage that in training, I can use heeling as a reinforcer for getting something "hard" right.
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I love these leashes! I have a 4', 5', and 6' one and they are really lightweight, but strong. The lady does a beautiful job on them. I didn't have any of the bling put on mine (i don't want it getting in my way), but you could.

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Yes, I have several beaded 5' leashes for Kodi (my favorite length for heeling with dogs the size of Havanese) but Panda hasn't "earned" one yet. She does have a pretty, beaded (conformation) show lead. You need 6 ft least for such a small number of classes that I don't tend to buy leashes just for that... I just use whatever ones I have around.


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