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post #21 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-03-2015, 09:17 PM
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I definitely understand what you went through. Oliver does agility and we started his first session in a horse arena with a dirt floor. You can imagine the smells and they were all new to him. The other thing was there were two classes going at once. Our beginner and a more advanced class at the other end of the arena. Very loud and lots of activity going on. Now he is in his second class in a different place, but it too is a horse arena with more than one class, in fact this one has three classes going. I am amazed Ollie doesn't take off for visits, but he has been very good about that. He can lose his concentration though and it is a constant battle to keep his focus on me. I have enclosed a video just to let you get an idea of the noise and to let you see what happens with another young dog, a lab, in our class that just couldn't be contained. The voice on the video is my son, he thinks it is funny, but of course he doesn't understand how frustrating it is for everyone involved. You can also see how Oliver gets distracted at times from smells and noise. This video was during his first beginner session, he is getting better, but I think it will always be an issue. Hopefully as time goes on he will become immune to it and it will help him in the long run.

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Boy, THAT is tough! If that Lab had jumped all over Kodi the way he did that little dog in the other ring, I would never be able to work Kodi in that building again. Your guy is doing GREAT to be able to work in an environment like that!!!


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I know Karen, that has happened more than once, luckily the dogs that have bolted have not been mean dogs, just hyper, but as we all know they can do harm just by being so bouncy. The environment could certainly be better. Ollie is growing up pretty bullet proof as far as fear of other dogs, but it only takes one episode to change everything. I immediately pick him up if a dog is charging, even a little one. A Jack Russel was aggressive toward a Border Collie last Monday and the poor Collie couldn't function the rest of the night. She is so gentle and she was devastated. That Jack should not be allowed in class in my opinion, until he has been well socialized in the right classes for his needs.







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I know Karen, that has happened more than once, luckily the dogs that have bolted have not been mean dogs, just hyper, but as we all know they can do harm just by being so bouncy. The environment could certainly be better. Ollie is growing up pretty bullet proof as far as fear of other dogs, but it only takes one episode to change everything. I immediately pick him up if a dog is charging, even a little one. A Jack Russel was aggressive toward a Border Collie last Monday and the poor Collie couldn't function the rest of the night. She is so gentle and she was devastated. That Jack should not be allowed in class in my opinion, until he has been well socialized in the right classes for his needs.
Honestly, IMO, the trainers should make sure that there is a SOLID partition between rings, and only one dog should be loose at a time in any one ring.


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That is an excellent idea. Might just bring that up next session.







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At our trial they were cognizant of staggering the running so the side-by-side rings were not all going at the same time. Sometimes they were though. Other times the people were setting it up, which was also quite distracting, according to Archer. But, what can you do. (Other than proof behaviours!)

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At our trial they were cognizant of staggering the running so the side-by-side rings were not all going at the same time. Sometimes they were though. Other times the people were setting it up, which was also quite distracting, according to Archer. But, what can you do. (Other than proof behaviours!)
Yes, MANY of our larger trials have rings running simultaneously. But by that time, the dogs are (hopefully) trained better, if they are already trialing. To try to train inexperienced dogs in a setting like that seems crazy to me!

The worst seems to be if you have Open Obedience in the next ring with someone throwing their dumbbell for the retrieve exercises… I've seen a couple of retrievers in the rally ring find that absolutely irresistible!


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