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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-18-2020, 09:43 PM Thread Starter
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It's Brisket's Turn!

Nino's agility classes won't start again until August, but in the mean time, Brisket has been having some fun while Nino takes a short break from performance!

With our free time (believe it or not, there still isn't much for us despite Covid-19), we have worked quite a bit on rally, dock diving, nosework, and tricks! Brisket is getting close to being ready for rally novice competition, likes to push off the ramp in the pool and to jump into the lake, is able to find birch, and should be testing for his TKI and TKA soon! We have been having some of the most fun with our new agility class, though!

He lacks the intensity that Nino has in it, and despite putting a very strong groundwork foundation on him, never really got around to any further training. One of our local clubs started an online class that is PERFECT for Brisket. A good beginner class for a more experienced handler as there is a little less instruction, and good for Brisket because it is very easy to adjust things for him as he is ahead in some areas and behind in others. We get a free ring rental each week...here are some videos! He will never be as fast or competitive as Nino, but having a happy, bouncy little creature there to pick me up when Nino kicks my butt and makes me cry is going to be very nice :P

https://youtu.be/6SnrEyrfaiY

And Brisket and his greatest love...his $2 fleece show squeaky. A VERY motivating reward!

https://youtu.be/lwBVshstHX4

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How cute is that?!?! And MOST people would be perfectly happy with that for Havanese speed. You got spoiled by starting out with Nino, the ďpocket rocketĒ!

What a cool way of doing classes, to have them on line with a rental time built in. Our training facility is still completely shut down. I have an outdoor ring at home (as well as my training room) so we are still training, and Iím doing a private lesson once a week. Iím also doing an online class with Kodi with Fenzi Academy that we are enjoying, but itís not related to our training center.


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...here are some videos! He will never be as fast or competitive as Nino, but having a happy, bouncy little creature there to pick me up
Fun videos! I have a question, I often see handlers putting their hand to their mouth and then motioning out to the front of the dog, whether it be conformation or other types of competition. I see you are doing this in this video. What is that about? Do you have something in your hand? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Fun videos! I have a question, I often see handlers putting their hand to their mouth and then motioning out to the front of the dog, whether it be conformation or other types of competition. I see you are doing this in this video. What is that about? Do you have something in your hand? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Let me know which time in which video I'm doing it and I'll try to answer your question! Most of the time when you see it in the show ring, it's because that handler is keeping their bait (usually something also tasty for people...dont worry) in their mouth. I don't do that (in either the show ring or the sport ring...dont love how it looks AND I always end up eating the bait ), so I'm wondering what you're seeing here haha!
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Let me know which time in which video I'm doing it and I'll try to answer your question! Most of the time when you see it in the show ring, it's because that handler is keeping their bait (usually something also tasty for people...dont worry) in their mouth. I don't do that (in either the show ring or the sport ring...dont love how it looks AND I always end up eating the bait ), so I'm wondering what you're seeing here haha!
Yes, lots of conformation people hold bait in their mouths. Sports people sometimes do it too, but RARELY agility people... my agility trainers would have a FIT over anyone running with food in their mouths... too much danger of them inhaling it and choking!

There are LOTS of good ways of teaching a dog to focus on your face without storing food there, and I suspect with Covid, that stuff is going to be forbidden on showgrounds for a long time to come!


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Also. from what I see, Sophie is training with a toy here... not using food at all. I see her adjusting her glasses a couple of times...


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Yes, lots of conformation people hold bait in their mouths. Sports people sometimes do it too,

There are LOTS of good ways of teaching a dog to focus on your face without storing food there,
Sorry for the confusion, I was not clear. When watching your videos, they linked to other videos you made. The one I am referring to is from 11/24/2018 "[email protected]" From 10 to 20 sec. into the video, you are doing something with your mouth and then motioning forward. Karen says that is "bait." I see this all the time in conformation. I guess it is to keep your dog focused on you. But I thought using a "lure" to gain compliance from your dog was not a good idea. Maybe I misunderstood. I have taught Ricky the "watch me" command to keep him focused on me. Maybe that is not good either. I am confused, I still have so much to learn.

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Haha THAT is me showing an unruly 7 month old puppy and trying desperately to keep his attention when in the ring with a handful of seasoned adult dogs. I have a private video of him later in the show in the BOB ring and he is just DONE. I'm using a squeaker. In the show ring, we use bait as a "look here" and to get expression. While in most training using a lure that the dog follows isn't a good idea for getting the dog to understand a behavior, using bait to encourage a dog to look essentially shapes itself as the dogs are apt to look at the exciting thing. Where you want your dog to look in the show ring changes so much (when I put Brisket on the table now that he knows what he is doing a bit more, I want him to look straight ahead when the judge first sees him then to make eye contact with the dog and follow the judge with his gaze while they approach the table) if I shaped for his attention in one specific place, getting him to change his attention would be very tricky
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I wish I had more recent videos of him in the show ring. It's a much more rehearsed dance these days, but even then, where I want him looking is not always right at me, so while he knows an offering eye contact behavior, I don't use it in the show ring with him (or any of the dogs I handle)

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How cute is that?!?! And MOST people would be perfectly happy with that for Havanese speed. You got spoiled by starting out with Nino, the ďpocket rocketĒ!

What a cool way of doing classes, to have them on line with a rental time built in. Our training facility is still completely shut down. I have an outdoor ring at home (as well as my training room) so we are still training, and Iím doing a private lesson once a week. Iím also doing an online class with Kodi with Fenzi Academy that we are enjoying, but itís not related to our training center.
He is the happiest little dude. So hard to be down around him...my happy little pill (and yes, as perfect as he is usually, he IS a pill sometimes :P)

I love the format. I've always done well with online learning but have very little space and scant equipment, so having access to a safe place (we are the only ones there when we rent...no employees in with us, and they sanitize between each rental) that we can work on our stuff has been SO helpful. Brisket knows his jumps clearly, but we don't have routine access to contacts, which are extra tough to train. We are having fun!
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