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If you are a game warden or someone that can't stand to kill any wildlife--then stop reading here. For the rest of us, you may know that I had a little bantham rooster that I dearly loved. He would chase Rosie and she would chase him and he would flog me or my husband if he had the chance and we didn't mind because we thought it was cute for such a little fellow to attack us (didn't hurt). Well yesterday, I let Rosie out the back to potty and she wouldn't leave the door so I walked out with her and this Hawk flew off. He was in the scrub near the back door. I didn't get a good look, but not the little chicken hawk a big one about a foot or more tall. Anyway I warned hubby and gs not to let Rosie out and to look for the chickens. They were all up in the scrubbery. At that time there were all accounted for, but later when my gs went to feed them he found little "Bantie" or what was left of him and the hawk still eating on him. The rest of my hens are shut up for now and the grandson has orders to watch for the hawk and shoot to kill. I don't know if he could carry Rosie off, but he could kill her and the rest of my hens also. I still have the little Bantam hen also.

One of my friends said that there was always drama at my house and she was right. Actually she said that she could write a book about me and my animals.
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That is pretty scary! It sounds like a really big hawk. We have them around here, too, but they don't seem too awfully big so I watch Abby when she's outside - especially at night.

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Thankfully they don't fly at night like owls. But once they find a place that has prey just waiting to be taken, they will come back. I have told this before, I used to have pigeons beautiful white fan-tails. I went out one morning to feed them in what is now my chicken house and saw all these white feathers--then all these dead pigeons--then I looked up and was staring this hugh hawk in the face. He was sitting on one of the roosts. He was nearer two feet tall than one foot, hugh talons, etc. I slowly backed out and slammed the door. He had torn off the screen on one side and gotten in. He killed 14 of my pigeons. A shotgun blew him to hell. I think this hawk is the same kind and they are a protected species. so, it is just a hypo-thetical killing that took place before and will again this weekend if we see him again--that is for all the federal agents out there.
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Lucile - I am sorry to hear about your little rooster....and your pigeons. We had a couple of bantam roosters when I was a kid. They were feisty little things. I don't believe I have ever seen a hawk up close and personal. On the ranch in Montana, the main issue with the chickens was skunks and badgers. Last year, when I was up near the top rung of my ladder, pruning on my apple tree, an Eagle flew close by, was a bit unnerving. They are quite big too.

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Good to hear they don't come out at night. Of course, we do have an owl nest in a tree near our pond. So, do I have to worry about the owls?

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Thankfully they don't fly at night like owls. But once they find a place that has prey just waiting to be taken, they will come back. I have told this before, I used to have pigeons beautiful white fan-tails. I went out one morning to feed them in what is now my chicken house and saw all these white feathers--then all these dead pigeons--then I looked up and was staring this hugh hawk in the face. He was sitting on one of the roosts. He was nearer two feet tall than one foot, hugh talons, etc. I slowly backed out and slammed the door. He had torn off the screen on one side and gotten in. He killed 14 of my pigeons. A shotgun blew him to hell. I think this hawk is the same kind and they are a protected species. so, it is just a hypo-thetical killing that took place before and will again this weekend if we see him again--that is for all the federal agents out there.
Yes, it's like foxes... I love hawks and I love foxes. But once they find a source of captive food, they DO keep coming back. And, unfortunately, that means we need to do what is necessary to protect our livestock.

Before my kids were born, I raise Jersey Wooly Rabbits. (a dwarf wool rabbit) We went though a Horrible time with raccoons killing them right in their hutches, inside our barn. They would terrorize them until they ran out of the safe (solid floored) nest boxes, and onto the wire mesh floor. Then they'd grab them and literally pull them through piece by piece. We'd come out in the morning and nothing would be left inside the hutch but a skull. (because it was too big to fit through the wire) I used to like raccoons, and I quickly got to hate them.

That summer was the big rabies plague among raccoons up here, and fortunately, it knocked the population back down to a size where they aren't marauding the way they did then. Otherwise, we would have had to shoot (or trap) them too.

I do everything I can to protect wild life... We leave a large portion of our property wooded, exactly for that purpose. But when they attack our domestic animals, right under our noses, we have to do something to protect them!!!


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Good to hear they don't come out at night. Of course, we do have an owl nest in a tree near our pond. So, do I have to worry about the owls?
Only the biggest owls. Great Horned, POSSIBLY Barn Owls, though I'm not sure they're quite big enough. I'd be very careful out at night in Great Horned territory if you have a B&W Hav, because a favorite food of Great Horned Owls are skunks.

I don't think an owl would get close if a person was right with the dog... they are not nearly as brazen as hawks, and tend to like to keep their distance from people. But I'd worry about my dog out alone at night, and obviously, a fenced yard won't help.

We have a pair of screech owls who nest in our yard, but they are no danger at all... they are tiny birds, and adorable. They just catch mice.


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I used to have a large flock of chickens back next to our wooded portion, so they would have shade. I had a 6' high wire fence all around and a wonderful chicken house. The coons and opossums climbed over--so I ran electric fencing around the bottom and top of the fencing and still they came over. We would trap them and take them off. My husband got so mad one year he swore that he was killing the next one that he trapped because the night before all of the baby chicks had been killed and half eaten. Wouldn't you know we had a opossum in the trap next morning. Hubby went to get the gun and I went to watch. When he approached the trap, she turned over and I heard this "Oh No". He put down the gun and picked up the trap and put it in the back of the truck to take her off. I who was madder than him asked what are you doing kill her--then I looked closely. She had a little baby attached to each teat. Needless to say we took her off to the country and put her and her little ones out. Then I just quit with the chickens for a while. After losing all my pigeons, I decided to have just a few 4 hens and rooster and put them in the back yard, pool area and used the pigeon house for a chicken house. So far the coons and opossums haven't come up to the house for them.
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It's a scary thought. We have hawks here too, as well as osprey for which the conservation authority makes nests atop the telephone poles outside of town (I'm in a small village with farmland all around), and in the summer they circle overhead. They are beautiful to watch, but scary to think about considering they can be 2 feet long with up to a 6 foot wingspan, and so I imagine that one could easily snatch up a 10-pound dog if hungry enough.
Here is a link to an interesting article in the Toronto Star from last week about a downtown hawk http://www.thestar.com/news/article/...k-in-moss-park
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That's scary!

And can I just admit, I've always been scared of owls, they just creep me out and scare me they are so diabolical looking to me.

and some birds can certainly take a little dog down and chickens.

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