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I was notified last Wednesday that I had been in close contact with someone who had tested positive for C-19 virus. He was doing some concrete work for me. Even though I wear a mask and distance he refuses to wear a mask. I hadn't seen him in about 10 days but that was still within the window of opportunity. He had been at home in bed sick with C-19 symptoms in the meantime so his doctor ordered a test and he was positive. I had not been feeling well and became concerned. On Thursday I contacted our local County testing station and they were not accepting new appointments at this time since they are overwhelmed with people wanting tests. They referred me to a testing site 150 miles away where they could give me an appointment in TWO WEEKS! I called my medical care provider for immediate assistance. They said they were only giving tests to those who displayed symptoms and had a doctor's authorization. She referred me to a consulting nurse who asked me a long list of questions and said my case for a test was "marginal" but she would have a physician call when available to make a final determination. Thursday evening a physician called me and asked more questions. He said they were most concerned about anyone running a temperature (which I wasn't) but he said I did have some "unusual" symptoms and because of my age he would authorize a test for me but not for Momi because she had absolutely no symptoms.

On Friday, the person I had been exposed to called me and said his whole family about 7 people had been tested because he had tested positive. They all came up negative! So they decided to test him again and HE came up negative the second time!!! The physician said it was a "false positive" the first time. The physician said that his three day sickness was something other than C-19!

Friday morning, I went to the Medical Building lab (about 20 miles away) for the test. Initially I was the only one there but others arrived after me. The test was administered by an RN. She tested me with a throat swab and nasal swab. The nasal swab was very uncomfortable. They went way up into my nasal passage and swabbed for about 15 seconds. There was an acute burning sensation. The nurse said I would get result in "3 to 5 days." I was sent my results via email last night (Sunday). I am negative.

Momi went to a big box pharmacy for a drive through test on Friday evening. It is a self-administered test while you sit in your car, no one to assist. It is only a nasal swab test. She said she didn't stick it very far in her nose because it hurt. They told her to expect results in 3 to 7 days. She has not received her results yet. I don't have confidence in her test but I am certain she is negative anyway.

It has been a hectic and stressful week!

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Oh wow, that's scary. I am glad that you tested negative and hope Momi will too.
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Wow, what a scary ordeal, but I am SO glad you are negative!!! I have to say, I am so surprised how differently these tests are done across the country. I have been tested twice here in MA. Once because I had a DVT blood clot, and aince they have seen some strange clotting problems with Covid, they wanted to rule that out. (It was not Covid) and the second time, I had an off and on fever for almost 10 days. I also tested negative then, though Iím not positive I actually WAS negative that time.

However, it was easy for me to get tested both times. It was a drive-up testing site at a hospital both times (different hospitals each time) in both cases it was a nasal swab. While it goes WAY up into your nasal passage, (feels like itís tickling your brain!) the test that they use here is a VERY narrow little swab. I wouldnít call it any more than mildly uncomfortable. It was certainly no worse than flu or Strep tests Iíve had in the past. I just thought Iíd say that so that people arenít afraid to get tested if they think they need it. Itís not always a terrible experience. Oh, and here in MA, I got my results in less than 24 hours both times. That seems to be standard turn-around rime here... I know that is NOT the case in CA right now... I know they are having a real problem with backlog right now.

And... I WISH they would make it LAW that people have to wear masks everwhere. It is law in MA. Thatís the good news. The bad news is that we are now in Phase 3 now too. Now our governor has not allowed the opening of bars (and wonít) but both restaurants with indoor seating and fitness places, both with certain precautions, are allowed to be open.

And I am REALLY worried that we are are going to see the same thing happen as happened in CA. Yes, our governor was more cautious, and waied longer to reopen, partially because we had to beat back a much larger surge in the spring, but we DID that. We got numbers REALLY low. And now, even though people are being pretty good about masks, we ARE seeing cases creeping up. Most of that is in tourist area, where people are coming in from out of state (not surprising) but I see people being less cautious. I donít understand it. What do people think? That this virus is all of a sudden less dangerous? I donít get it...
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Wow, what a scary ordeal, but I am SO glad you are negative!!! I have to say, I am so surprised how differently these tests are done across the country. I have been tested twice here in MA. Once because I had a DVT blood clot, and aince they have seen some strange clotting problems with Covid, they wanted to rule that out. (It was not Covid) and the second time, I had an off and on fever for almost 10 days. I also tested negative then, though Iím not positive I actually WAS negative that time.

However, it was easy for me to get tested both times. It was a drive-up testing site at a hospital both times (different hospitals each time) in both cases it was a nasal swab. While it goes WAY up into your nasal passage, (feels like itís tickling your brain!) the test that they use here is a VERY narrow little swab. I wouldnít call it any more than mildly uncomfortable. It was certainly no worse than flu or Strep tests Iíve had in the past. I just thought Iíd say that so that people arenít afraid to get tested if they think they need it. Itís not always a terrible experience. Oh, and here in MA, I got my results in less than 24 hours both times. That seems to be standard turn-around rime here... I know that is NOT the case in CA right now... I know they are having a real problem with backlog right now.

And... I WISH they would make it LAW that people have to wear masks everwhere. It is law in MA. Thatís the good news. The bad news is that we are now in Phase 3 now too. Now our governor has not allowed the opening of bars (and wonít) but both restaurants with indoor seating and fitness places, both with certain precautions, are allowed to be open.

And I am REALLY worried that we are are going to see the same thing happen as happened in CA. Yes, our governor was more cautious, and waied longer to reopen, partially because we had to beat back a much larger surge in the spring, but we DID that. We got numbers REALLY low. And now, even though people are being pretty good about masks, we ARE seeing cases creeping up. Most of that is in tourist area, where people are coming in from out of state (not surprising) but I see people being less cautious. I donít understand it. What do people think? That this virus is all of a sudden less dangerous? I donít get it...
I still can't believe how hard getting tested STILL is in the US!

As for "what are they thinking"
1) I won't get it
2) It's not that bad
3) even if I do get it, I won't get that sick
4) masks are uncomfortable
5) All that matters is that I'm uncomfortable, who cares about everyone else, I'm not wearing it.

And in addition to all of the problems it's causing there, it also is resulting in a lot of other countries closing their borders to US residents. It's one of the things we have to consider right now for us - when we leave here in November, where do we go - because as soon as we touch down on US soil, we will basically be trapped there - we still have options on where to go before that (since it's linked to US residence/ not passport), but because people can't follow basic scientific advice, no one else wants US residents to visit them.

Popi - I'm glad the two of you were negative.
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And... I WISH they would make it LAW that people have to wear masks everwhere. It is law in MA. Thatís the good news. The bad news is that we are now in Phase 3 now too. Now our governor has not allowed the opening of bars (and wonít) but both restaurants with indoor seating and fitness places, both with certain precautions, are allowed to be open.
I just read an article about this 10 minutes ago! A local professor and his students have reviewed over 130 mask studies over the past couple of months and found that masks are even more effective than anyone expected them to be.

DD has been up in arms about masks, as itís been a point of controversy where we live. I do keep telling her, the opposite of politicizing masks isnít to be confrontational about masks. Just wear the mask without complaining.

I learned today that I have a terrible time recognizing people with masks, but apparently other people donít have this problem! I was kind of enjoying feeling anonymous! It turns out, if I go in public without any makeup on and my hair in a knotted mess, even with a mask, people I know do still recognize me and can see that I no longer believe in self care
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She tested me with a throat swab and nasal swab. The nasal swab was very uncomfortable. They went way up into my nasal passage and swabbed for about 15 seconds. There was an acute burning sensation.
DS had labs drawn at a hospital with a testing site in the parking lot. A little kid was being tested all the way across the parking lot but we could still hear him cry out. It was sad.

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It has been a hectic and stressful week!
I hope you are feeling better! Nothing like the stress of testing and waiting and worrying when youíre already under the weather.
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I just read an article about this 10 minutes ago! A local professor and his students have reviewed over 130 mask studies over the past couple of months and found that masks are even more effective than anyone expected them to be.

DD has been up in arms about masks, as itís been a point of controversy where we live. I do keep telling her, the opposite of politicizing masks isnít to be confrontational about masks. Just wear the mask without complaining.

I learned today that I have a terrible time recognizing people with masks, but apparently other people donít have this problem! I was kind of enjoying feeling anonymous! It turns out, if I go in public without any makeup on and my hair in a knotted mess, even with a mask, people I know do still recognize me and can see that I no longer believe in self care
Do not mistake me - I HATE the mask. I hate wearing it - AND I am the same as EvaElizabeth - I already have facial recognition issues (never officially diagnosed, but I am pretty sure I have a mild form of face blindness - I'm pretty sure my Dad did too), the mask increases that 10 fold! In addition, while I do not have any hearing loss, I do find that I can "hear" (i.e. understand) people better if I can also see their mouths/ read their lips (while listening to them) so without that things are a little harder (not as hard as they are for people who do have hearing loss, but still). So, wearing a mask is not a fun thing - but I think the respect for other people is more important.

I do agree that being confrontational is not the answer, but knowing that these people are showing a disregard for the health and safety of everyone around them makes that hard. You wouldn't let someone drive drunk because they could hurt others, this feels like the same thing. I wish I had an answer.
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I still can't believe how hard getting tested STILL is in the US!

As for "what are they thinking"
1) I won't get it
2) It's not that bad
3) even if I do get it, I won't get that sick
4) masks are uncomfortable
5) All that matters is that I'm uncomfortable, who cares about everyone else, I'm not wearing it.

And in addition to all of the problems it's causing there, it also is resulting in a lot of other countries closing their borders to US residents. It's one of the things we have to consider right now for us - when we leave here in November, where do we go - because as soon as we touch down on US soil, we will basically be trapped there - we still have options on where to go before that (since it's linked to US residence/ not passport), but because people can't follow basic scientific advice, no one else wants US residents to visit them.

Popi - I'm glad the two of you were negative.
Yes, I do know that a lot of it is the very selfish, insular thinking of so many Americans it is very sad, and makes me ashamed. Maybe because I have travelled a lot outside the US and have many international friends, I really see humans as a global community. We are all spinning on this tiny chunk of rock together! And I canít WAIT for this to be over... for MANY reasons, but partly so I can LEAVE this country again and see dear friends and relatives in other parts of the world!

Incidentally, my step mom is Latvian, and a member of the Latvian Lutheran church here in the Boston area. They always have a Latvian minister, from Latvia, because all the services are still spoken in Latvian. (They also have Saturday School for the children to learn their native language) The ministers are here on a green card for 3 years or so, then return to Latvia, and a new one will come. It is a nice opportunity for them and their families to really get to know the US for a few years, and for the whole family to learn to speak English well. Well, their current Minister went back to Latvia for some sort of extended family emergency at the start of all this, and between Covid and the general problems for foreign nationals with this administration, he was not able to get back into the US. And now, of course, the borders are pretty well closed. His wife and children are here in Boston, living at the rectory, he is staying with relatives in Riga. They are still working on sorting out his green card status again. In the mean time, the church has not been having ďliveĒ services anyway, so he has been brodcasting his services and leading a weekly bible study from Riga! At leadt there ARE some advantages to this happening in the modern age!


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I just read an article about this 10 minutes ago! A local professor and his students have reviewed over 130 mask studies over the past couple of months and found that masks are even more effective than anyone expected them to be.

DD has been up in arms about masks, as itís been a point of controversy where we live. I do keep telling her, the opposite of politicizing masks isnít to be confrontational about masks. Just wear the mask without complaining.

I learned today that I have a terrible time recognizing people with masks, but apparently other people donít have this problem! I was kind of enjoying feeling anonymous! It turns out, if I go in public without any makeup on and my hair in a knotted mess, even with a mask, people I know do still recognize me and can see that I no longer believe in self care
LOL! Yes, I can usually still recognize people as long as I know them reasonably well! I saw a client that I havenít seen in a couple of years at the grocery store the other day, and recognized her right away!

I know your daughter is a smart kid. Maybe this article will help her believe!:

https://www.insider.com/microbiologi...navirus-2020-7
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Do not mistake me - I HATE the mask. I hate wearing it - AND I am the same as EvaElizabeth - I already have facial recognition issues (never officially diagnosed, but I am pretty sure I have a mild form of face blindness - I'm pretty sure my Dad did too), the mask increases that 10 fold! In addition, while I do not have any hearing loss, I do find that I can "hear" (i.e. understand) people better if I can also see their mouths/ read their lips (while listening to them) so without that things are a little harder (not as hard as they are for people who do have hearing loss, but still). So, wearing a mask is not a fun thing - but I think the respect for other people is more important.

I do agree that being confrontational is not the answer, but knowing that these people are showing a disregard for the health and safety of everyone around them makes that hard. You wouldn't let someone drive drunk because they could hurt others, this feels like the same thing. I wish I had an answer.
I donít have a problem recognizing people, but I DEFINITELY have a problem understanding what they are saying, and aI agree, I think it is because I canít see their lips.

Yeah, nobody said this was fun. I donít know ANYBODY who likes it. But (and it has almost become a cliche...) ďif you donít like wearing a mask, youíre gonna hate wearing a respirator!Ē


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