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talk to to the person you got her from you need to let them know what you feel then they might make the decision to charge you more for a full registration.If not then you need to have her spayed.And if you did breed her and had pups then they do have the right to take all the puppys the person I am getting my 5 month male from is that way its more for a full registration than a limited registration I beleave in being honest about every thing.But that is just my appeion good luck
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Hi Susaneckert,

Thanks for your input. I will contact the breeder and see if they can revise the contract. If not, I will bring my girl to be spayed. In the meantime, we just started puppy training classes at petco with our girl and she is doing great. Started with sitting, look and stay commands. My two daughters are having so much fun at the class too.

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That is wonderful it is so impotant to do those commands first.It is alot of fun my puppy will be here saturday I cant wait 23 hours to go .You can also look at classes with a reg. OB club I know petmart here charges 100.00 the OB class I will be going to is 80 for 8 weeks when you start going to different types of training classes it can get costly Iplan on doing the classes with clubs but to get to the basics its great. This site give alot of feed back some times it takes time for people to get motivated but they do come around LOL I have gotten alot of tips. Susan JUST HAVE FUN !!!!!!!!
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Where do you live briteyes
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I live in NY. I work in the day and grandma watches our puppy in the day so she has company and doesn't feel alone. Thank goodness for grandma's.
Good luck on Saturday at the arrival of your new puppy. Get your camera and scrap book ready.

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Cool yes grandmas can be great I am as my kids say LOL grandmother of 10 YIKES!!!! and so very young. My truck is loaded camer check goodies check bed check leash and collar check LOL Boy am I ready got to love it
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Briteyes, there is usually a reason why a breeder would put a spay clause in their contract, so definitely contact the breeder to let him/her know what you are thinking. You mentioned that you don't want to spay her because she is beautiful, but I can tell you that breeding is the ugliest thing that happened to my girl. She lost a lot of hair and is mostly bald in the rear. She is out of shape and looks like a mess! She used to be the beauty in my avatar and I hope to get her back to that.

Not only focusing on looks, but there is a lot of risk and study involved in breeding. You really need some good, strong mentors in place, have all the health testing done first, and then you have to very carefully examine why you would want to breed her.

Good luck! Is your breeder easy to contact?
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The scar is really pretty small and it's no real big deal for the bitch. She will lay around for a day and then be back to her normal self. They're all sweet and pretty.

There's a lot more to being a breeder than just wanting more like the one you have. A breeder needs to understand the health problems in the breed and know how to avoid breeding them. You need a health pedigree at least four generations back for all relatives on all branches and NOT breed one who has much potential for producing more problems.

Conformation needs to be completely understood including forty different points that are evaluated. Each of those points needs to be understood to the point of how much each needs improving, why, and that the number of points of conformation that need improving is minimum.

There are health problems in the breed. The breeder needs to be responsible for taking care of any pups that are produced who might come up with any such problems. The breeder needs to be responsible to find only suitable homes for the pups that are produced. The breeder needs to be willing and have the time for all the education the puppy buyer needs after the buyer comes to get the puppy.

This is the fastest growing breed in the AKC. Too many people have jumped on the bandwagon and started to crank out puppies and ship them off to whomever will buy them. The numbers showing up in rescue have increased. The largest percentage of dogs into rescue are for housetraining issues, but closely followed in number by dogs with major health problems that require real money to treat and they are not supported by their breeders. Housetraining issues come mainly from breeders who raise the pups on raised floors where the babies can let it fly anywhere with little consequence or other general lack of attention and followed up with little "handholding" support from the pups breeder.

There are now people breeding them all over the country who don't know what they are doing but willing to breed anything with plumbing and papers.

Responsible breeders only sell a very few puppies with unlimited registrations. Only after involvement with the National Breed Association-the HCA and you prove that you will be a responsible breeder will any other responsible breeder trust you will unlimited registration on a Havanese.

I know that at first thought it seems really poor to not be allowed to breed your dog but I very strongly feel that this is the way it should be. To be a responsible breeder really is a full time job. If you are really serious about becoming a breeder a large start on what you will need to know will be available in seminars at the Havanese National Specialty in a couple of weeks in Richmond. Look on the HCA site for location and times. It probably shows that deadlines have passed for signing up but I will guarantee that if you want to go that you can get in.
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My breeder is available to contact and at the time I signed the original contract she stated the long healthy backround (4 generations). The breeder only had one contract which involved spaying. I thank you all for the support not realizing the full aspect of breeding a dog. I certainly do not have any experience and have realized the breeding alone could go the wrong way for our family. I will contact my vet and go ahead with the spay plans. Thanks all. Glad to become a member and receive some help so fast from you all.

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Yes there is a "LOT" involved in breeding Health being #1 Qulity bad generics you do not want . I have seen to many puppy mills and my parents have closed up a ton of them.Do it for all the "Right" reason
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