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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 10-27-2009, 07:46 PM Thread Starter
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So, how do I choose NOW?

So I think you can all agree that there are probably more bad breeders/puppy mills disguised as breeders out there than good ones. However, I'm sure you can all agree that there are several good ones out theres as well. Since being on this forum, I have gotten so many good referalls for awesome breeders out there (several of them on this forum) and now I'm just wondering how to pick one with so many good options. Is it alright to choose one based on price at this point...? By the way, I really haven't narrowed down my choices by any means so I'm still totally open to breeder suggestions!
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What $ range are you finding? There really should not be that much of a price gap between the reputable breeders. When are you going to take the plunge?

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What $ range are you finding? There really should not be that much of a price gap between the reputable breeders. When are you going to take the plunge?

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I think I'm willing to spend up to $2000... I'm setting a goal to be ready and mentally prepared by this spring/summer - sometime between March and June. So excited!!!
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I think I'm willing to spend up to $2000... I'm setting a goal to be ready and mentally prepared by this spring/summer - sometime between March and June. So excited!!!
Sorry I just realized that I didn't really answer your question about the price range I'm finding. Granted, I haven't really gotten into pricing questions with a lot of the breeders yet... the range that I've found so far goes anywhere from $1800 to $2400. What price sounds right??? There will also be a difference in cost depending on where my breeder is located because I will most likely have the breeder personally fly my pup out to me.

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I always wondered what the "normal" price range is for a pet and not a show pup. Should each pup in a litter be priced the same?

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Prices do vary, even between reputable breeders that do the health testing, show and have either 1 litter a year or 4 or 5. I think $1500-$2000 is reasonable, again based on dealing with a breeder that does all they can to make the puppies as healthy as can be, socialized and works well with the puppy owners.

From my own experiences, I'd choose based on how well I can communicate with the breeders, on whether I can count on them for long-term support, how involved they want to be in my life as one of their puppy owners. After that, I'd choose based on type/personality of dogs, sex and maybe coloring. That's just me. If all that was a good fit, then I'd have no problem spending more on the puppy.




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I agree with Marj. If the price of the dog from each reputable breeder is within a couple of hundred dollars of each other, choose based upon your connection with the breeder. If you are new to dogs, how receptive will he or she be to lots of questions and requests for help. Will he or she respond quickly and with enthusiasm or act like you are bothering him or her.

If everything is truly equal among the breeders you are looking at, there's nothing wrong with choosing by price. If you can save $200 that's $200 that can go towards toys, bedding, food, etc for your puppy!

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I agree with Marj. If the price of the dog from each reputable breeder is within a couple of hundred dollars of each other, choose based upon your connection with the breeder. If you are new to dogs, how receptive will he or she be to lots of questions and requests for help. Will he or she respond quickly and with enthusiasm or act like you are bothering him or her.
If everything is truly equal among the breeders you are looking at, there's nothing wrong with choosing by price. If you can save $200 that's $200 that can go towards toys, bedding, food, etc for your puppy!
Emphasis mine. I got Benji and Lizzie from a well-reputable, well-regarded breeder in the Havanese community. I was a new puppy owner and without my breeder's patient, considerate and ever giving big heart, it would not have been an enjoyable adoption. The connection with the breeder and her continued, support and guidance has made it a success and joy. She is available to her puppy owners anytime they need her and willingly provides her help and guidance. Such involvement and continued support is appreciated by all her puppy owners.

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From what I saw when I was looking for our puppy last spring, the price range hasn't changed much. $600 might seem like a large difference between prices, but if you amortize it over the potential lifetime of the puppy, it's not very much at all. We took price out of the equation when choosing which breeder to go with. (and as it happened, the breeder we chose was toward the lower end, not the higher end)

When choosing a breeder among GOOD breeders, I think there are a few questions you want to ask yourself:

1. Do I feel like I have a good rapport with the breeder? Some breeders that I talked to, that do all the right testing, and seem to run quality operations, were a little cold and off-putting. I wanted a breeder I felt I could turn to with questions when I needed to. Relationship was very important to me.

2. Will the breeder have pups available when you want to bring yours home? I did not feel ready to commit a deposit to someone who had a long waiting list for puppies that"might" be born sometime in the distant future. There are websites that make it seem that that's the only way to get a quality puppy... I guarantee you, not all breeders work that way. That's not to say that you can expect to bring a puppy home next week. (though sometimes, even that can happen) But I found several breeders who had a litter on the ground and another on the way within the time-frame I was hoping to bring a pup home.

3. Do you have a strong preference in terms of sex and/or color? (I didn't) If so, how likely is it that you'll get the combo you want in the up-coming litter? Because I didn't care whether I got a male or female, I had a pretty good choice of puppies... the Kings had a waiting list for girls, and got a litter of 5 boys!<g>

4. Does the breeder insist on picking the puppy "for you", or will you have some choice? While I was very willing to accept guidance from our breeder in terms of her knowledge of the pups' personalities, I was also bringing a trainer with me to do temperament testing. We ended up leaving with a different pup than we had thought before we arrived. Both pups were beautiful (in fact, looks-wise, they were nearly identical) I had told the breeder that I wanted a puppy not only as a pet, but also to do obedience and agility work with. The pup she had picked for me was fearless and adventuresome, good things for and agility dog. But Kodi, though not quite as bold as the other pup, was certainly not timid, and was extremely people-oriented with fabulous eye contact. In the end, we all agreed that Kodi was the better fit for my personality/training style. I liked that our breeder was willing to work with me, rather than just say, "this is the best puppy for you". The breeders have a LOT of experience, but ultimately, it is the buyer who has to live and work with the pup.

All the puppies in Kodi's litter were wonderful pups, but, for instance, I would NOT have finalized the purchase on a timid or clingy pup, even if that were the only pup available to me at that time. Other people on this forum say that they LOVE their "velcro pups", so for them, a pup with that personality might be a fine choice.

5. How far away are they, and what will it cost to drive or fly to pick up my puppy?


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We got our Yogi for $1350, he was also microchipped (and had his first shots, all that stuff). He had all the papers and the litter registered with the Canadian Kennel society. He had a wonderful temperament when we brought him home, very friendly, outgoing and happy, not timid or shy. No problems with the poop or health issues otherwise. He bonded to us very quickly (and we to him even faster!

If you are in Canada I can send you some more info. I would defintely recommed this breeder.
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