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To add to what Pucks said, my middle girl is my big marker. She (fortunately) knows better than to mark in the house (she was my easiest to potty train; basically doing it herself) but she's a HUGE outdoor marker. She follows the others around and has to overwork EVERYWHERE one of the other pees... Even if she can only force a drop or two out!
My first Hav was a female, spayed, and pretty much housebroken within a week at 11 weeks of age. BUT, she could mark 20 times per trip outdoors. I've never seen anything like it. Her nose was always to the ground, stop, sniff, pee.......move a few feet or two, sniff, pee.....ad infinitum. But she NEVER peed indoors. She also could care less about other dogs. She was a prima donna and never needed a "companion" (just pests in her mind).
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I have a chocolate that just turned one. He was a very dark chocolate as a newborn and the breeder expected him to hold colour as his lines going back had done that. She also had kept in touch with buyers of previous litters from the same pairing and had found those pups to have held their colour. If you can find a breeder who has kept good info on your pups parents, grandparents etc. and the pups parents have had previous litters together that have held colour you up your odds of the colour holding. I am in western Canada and my breeder is no longer breeding that pairing so I cannot help you there. I have put up pictures of Hershey to let you see his colour development so far. He has lightened, but has stayed quite dark.
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yeah Karen .the meeting is done outside the home and like any early socialization is with knowledge that the dog is vaccinated and healthy. It is less than 30 seconds and is simply an olfactory preconditioning for when you bring one of the pups home. Havanese are no more dog social than most breeds. I would guess that I have helped directly or by finding a trainer for people who were having housemate problems whether Hav/Hav or Hav/ other breed no less than 50 times on here over the years. And my guess is there are many more that have issues that don't tell anyone about.
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There are as many opinions as households. Some research suggests there is less aggression occurs between opposite sexes ,followed by male/male and then female/female. Female/female aggression tended to be longer and more intense. But this is not by any means definitive. Pick a mate that is best of the litter if possible. If possible have them meet.
Hi Dave,

I noticed that you seem to be a canine behavioral specialist. I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to provide input; thank you. I have an understanding of operant conditioning (OC) and have utilized ABA (Applied Behavioral Analysis) it in the past with Autistic children, but it has been a long time since my ABA days.

It seems as if many puppy training programs have OC underpinnings; is this correct? Do you have any recommendations for books/videos or other resources for any particular training programs for potty training and general, rudimentary, social skills (extinguishing begging, jumping on houseguests, barking, etc.) for puppies?

Do you know of sources for empirical research on canine behavior where a layperson might have access? I have access some psychological and sociological academic journals and databases, but wouldn't even know where to start with canine research. I found these:

Welcome to the Canine Cognition Center at Yale! | Canine Cognition Center

Research Library | National Canine Research Council

but have not begun to dive in so I am not sure how much information is available there yet. What do you think about two puppies at the same time from the same litter?

Do you have any recommendations for the wait time between the first and second puppy? I would deeply appreciate any information you would be willing to offer.
Thank you

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Hi Dave,

I noticed that you seem to be a canine behavioral specialist. I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to provide input; thank you. I have an understanding of operant conditioning (OC) and have utilized ABA (Applied Behavioral Analysis) it in the past with Autistic children, but it has been a long time since my ABA days.

It seems as if many puppy training programs have OC underpinnings; is this correct? Do you have any recommendations for books/videos or other resources for any particular training programs for potty training and general, rudimentary, social skills (extinguishing begging, jumping on houseguests, barking, etc.) for puppies?

Do you know of sources for empirical research on canine behavior where a layperson might have access? I have access some psychological and sociological academic journals and databases, but wouldn't even know where to start with canine research. I found these:

Welcome to the Canine Cognition Center at Yale! | Canine Cognition Center

Research Library | National Canine Research Council

but have not begun to dive in so I am not sure how much information is available there yet. What do you think about two puppies at the same time from the same litter?

Do you have any recommendations for the wait time between the first and second puppy? I would deeply appreciate any information you would be willing to offer.
Thank you

The Canine Cognition Center does great work. The best site I know of for finding a HUGE amount of cutting edge dog cognition research is: SPARCS Initative

if you can arrange to go to a conference, you will never regret it. But the conferences are also live streamed, and archived on the website. It's not cheap, but it is SUCH a worthwile cause to support, and the talks are absolutely facinating!
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The Canine Cognition Center does great work. The best site I know of for finding a HUGE amount of cutting edge dog cognition research is: SPARCS Initative

if you can arrange to go to a conference, you will never regret it. But the conferences are also live streamed, and archived on the website. It's not cheap, but it is SUCH a worthwile cause to support, and the talks are absolutely facinating!
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hi Smemft , sorry I didn't get to your query earlier . For some reason I am not being notified by the site that there has been a reply to one of my subscribed threads.
Yes all training /learning involves operant conditioning. One of the best sites for learning is Dogstar Daily. Simply do a search and you have access to any topic and many of the best trainers. No I don't recommend littermates ,and the time to add a second is up to you but make sure your first dog is well trained and no major problems. I get most of my information from the trainers on our IAABC forum as there are always new articles being shared all the time. I subscribe to a lot of blogs as well. Here are some of the more scientific .sites
http://www.journalvetbehavior.com/

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...s-open-access/

Dog Behavior Co-Varies with Height, Bodyweight and Skull Shape

https://centerforcaninebehaviorstudi...tificAdvisory/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2251326/

https://www.journals.elsevier.com/jo...ecent-articles

https://dogcognition.wordpress.com/

Applied Animal Behaviour Science

https://www.usask.ca/wcvm/herdmed/applied-ethology/

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hi Smemft , sorry I didn't get to your query earlier . For some reason I am not being notified by the site that there has been a reply to one of my subscribed threads.
Yes all training /learning involves operant conditioning. One of the best sites for learning is Dogstar Daily. Simply do a search and you have access to any topic and many of the best trainers. No I don't recommend littermates ,and the time to add a second is up to you but make sure your first dog is well trained and no major problems. I get most of my information from the trainers on our IAABC forum as there are always new articles being shared all the time. I subscribe to a lot of blogs as well. Here are some of the more scientific .sites
http://www.journalvetbehavior.com/

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...s-open-access/

Dog Behavior Co-Varies with Height, Bodyweight and Skull Shape

https://centerforcaninebehaviorstudi...tificAdvisory/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2251326/

https://www.journals.elsevier.com/jo...ecent-articles

https://dogcognition.wordpress.com/

Applied Animal Behaviour Science

https://www.usask.ca/wcvm/herdmed/applied-ethology/
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These resources are so helpful! Many thanks and greatly appreciated!

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