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My story is reversed. Tux was the LARGEST of his litter. At 8 weeks he weighed 3 lbs. He is almost a year and a half now and weighs 8.2 lbs. and is about 10 to 10 1/2" at his shoulder.
he's 8 pounds of pure cute!!!
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Well, at 2.2 lbs at 5 weeks, he's not that small. My Raffy-boy was 2.7 lbs at 8 weeks and at 2 years has hit a consistent 12.2 lbs and lean. He was average size in his litter of 9 puppies. It is interesting to see how some pups start small and get big and vice-versa.
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Puppies Weight Gain

My friend Donna's Zoe was 1.8 at nine weeks and is now 3.3 at 12 weeks. Kosmo was 3.3 at nine weeks and is a lean 11 pounds at nearly 8 months.
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Well, at 2.2 lbs at 5 weeks, he's not that small. My Raffy-boy was 2.7 lbs at 8 weeks and at 2 years has hit a consistent 12.2 lbs and lean. He was average size in his litter of 9 puppies. It is interesting to see how some pups start small and get big and vice-versa.

I got the runt of the litter with my Yorkie, mom was 4.5 lbs dad was 4 lbs...My "runt" topped out at 9! He was not at all fat. He also had the thickest coat of any Yorkie I've ever seen, it never lightened in color either. He was a pretty great looking dog, I much preferred his look than the normal Yorkie look. His brother and sister were 4 and 5 pounds with silky coats that silvered.
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what a cutie your dog is, Marni!!!
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what a cutie your dog is, Marni!!!
But Donna is having behavior issues and works too much, so she may be mine soon. Bless Zoe, she lifts her top lip and exposes teeth and growls. She is usually overly tired, but it happened when my 14 year old granddaughter had her in her bedroom playing with her, and Alison said, "This puppy hates me." People and dog signals don't always mesh. My son in law, (pictured) asked me if Zoe was the last puppy left that nobody wanted.

If you are looking for a cheerful puppy, don't pick based on size and looks. And, if you want something that purrs instead of growls, get a cat.

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But Donna is having behavior issues and works too much, so she may be mine soon. Bless Zoe, she lifts her top lip and exposes teeth and growls. She is usually overly tired, but it happened when my 14 year old granddaughter had her in her bedroom playing with her, and Alison said, "This puppy hates me." People and dog signals don't always mesh. My son in law, (pictured) asked me if Zoe was the last puppy left that nobody wanted.

If you are looking for a cheerful puppy, don't pick based on size and looks. And, if you want something that purrs instead of growls, get a cat.
My first guess at the situation, is the 14 year old and may need some education in how to bring the best out in a young dog. Most puppies are by nature fearful, no matter how playful they may appear. It is an ingrained instinct to "live". Something as simple as a new grooming tool to a young puppy may cause a self defensive response, not to mention over aggressive "play". Learning how to motivate and calm an animal is a good precursor to learning how to motivate your future children. I would suggest finding a really good book on raising a puppy for your granddaughter and your friend. My husband said the same thing about Tux because he didn't understand "puppy fear" and why Tux would constantly bite his hands even if my husband wasn't touching him. Once he learned how to deal with it, they are best buds and Tux ADORES my husband.


My good friend has a ten year old Havanese that growls when something doesn't suit him. My friend confessed that when the dog was a puppy, her 11 year old daughter would pick him up by his front paws and dangle him thinking that would be fun for the dog. I can't begin to tell you how my insides churned when I heard that. SOOOOO, I really wanted to respond to this so that you could put both your granddaughter and your friend on the right track. It takes patience and understanding and calmness. Taking a dog from a hyper emotional/playful/bitey/fearful state is not difficult to do once you understand WHY the dog is doing what it is doing. TRUST is critical with all animals. Teaching a pup that it doesn't need to fear is a worthwhile endeavor that will pay off in more ways than one for your granddaughter. There is a better way to "play" and a way to teach trust. Wishing your friend, your granddaughter and Zoe the best! (Dogs were put here on this earth to make us better humans)
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The puppy we chose was friendly and sweet when we met him, otherwise I would have asked for my deposit back if he had a bad personality. His mother was also friendly and sweet. My original question was a health concern. I don't care how big he grows as long as he is healthy. I have had many dogs in my lifetime and I already have a cat.
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It was a fear response when Zoe went under the bed and Alison bent down to her eye level and put her hands on her to get her out from under the bed. The growl was a warning, "I am tired and have found a nice den." The little dog also growls when you first pick her up, and certainly when you hold her near your face.

Puppies don't think the way we would like them to if we want a cuddly toy. At least, not often. I told Allison this. Looking directly into their eyes is perceived as threatening, and picking up a puppy (that may instinctively think, "Mom is doing this 'cause mom senses danger and wants a new den location) does not often rub them the right way. Also, seven month old Kosmo wore her out with play, and provided an example of "look at me, play with me" gregariousness to Alison that a new baby couldn't match.

I am getting an education of what adding a second puppy to my household will be like with these family dynamics.

And, if Zoe had growled at her and bared her teeth at the breeders, I am sure Donna WOULD have decided on a different dog. But I think Zoe will win her over. She does the Havanese puppy talk thing, and really is fun to look at.

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The puppy we chose was friendly and sweet when we met him, otherwise I would have asked for my deposit back if he had a bad personality. His mother was also friendly and sweet. My original question was a health concern. I don't care how big he grows as long as he is healthy. I have had many dogs in my lifetime and I already have a cat.
We got a little off topic, as sometimes happens in this forum. I am sure your puppy will offer you many years of happiness.

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