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Low Weight Concerns

We are about to fly on Friday this week (the 11th) to Dallas to pick up a puppy. We wanted a male and on the small side. This puppy is almost 17 weeks old and it finally occurred to me to ask his weight - he was only 2.25 pounds last week! I'm worried about this but the breeder says he's fine just small and expects him to be 8-9 lbs which I think is impossible.
My questions/issues:
1. Should I ask her to have her vet test his liver function? Heart? Anything in particular?
2. Should I be worried that I've asked to be introduced to other people who have her dogs and she hasn't responded to that? (She said people don't like their email addresses given out).
3. This seems to be a reputable breeder who is part of the local Havanese club in the Dallas/Ft Worth area. She's been very nice and responsive to all my questions but the size is worrying and the reluctance to connect me to others who own her dogs worries me.

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My Zoey weighed 1.7 pounds at 9 weeks and weighs 7.4 pounds at one year. If I had it to do over, I would not have done it the same way, I would have gotten a larger puppy and that is that. Many on the forum have picked "runt" of the litter dogs and love them and have no regrets.

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Marni - thank you. Are you able to say a bit more about why you'd not have picked this small weight dog? Do you feel you've had unusual health problems due to the size? Ours was not described to us as the runt of the litter. I'm not even sure I know why asked for his weight. I did know he was quite a bit older than her puppies usually are when she lets them go.
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you should be able to talk with previous owners. Def. a red flag. My concern is why you are getting this pup so late as the primary window for socialization is basically gone.
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Well...this is an important question and I'm feeling more foolish by the moment. We had given a deposit to a different breeder a couple months ago. I was uneasy on a few issues and asked quite a few questions about her socialization techniques. I told her I was worried that the puppies didn't go home until 12 weeks and spent all their time indoors. I asked if she could take our guy out for a car ride at least. She got really annoyed and said I asked too many questions and promptly refunded us. This breeder with the now-17 week old puppy is someone I corresponded with months ago and was going to have a litter ready to go home in late june. I contacted her (Wild Rose Havanese) and she said that breeding hadn't taken but that she had a male available from the winter litter. She answered all my socialization questions with good answers...He's been to a puppy class, she's taken him on errands to the bank and to Home Depot. I also saw that someone here said she knew and liked one of the Wild Rose dogs. We've by now spent a lot on this puppy...supplies that we've sent her and a non-refundable expensive plane ticket for one of us to go. I know it's silly but I felt that if we didn't get this puppy we'd have to wait another year (I don't want a puppy in winter). I don't want to insult her by suggesting I am mistrustful of not having references but I think I have to figure out how to ask that without sounding like a jerk.
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trust your instincts. ???
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I'm just crazily second guessing everything on this. I liked the breeder when I first contacted her - I like her now. She's informed and responsive. But. The references thing makes no sense to me. K Randall posted something positive about Wild Rose but that was a few years ago.
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wait for Karen to reply. or pm her

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I picked Scarlett. She was the second smallest in the litter. She is one year and weighs 6.5 pounds. No regrets about having a tiny dog. Willow will be a little bigger.



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We are about to fly on Friday this week (the 11th) to Dallas to pick up a puppy. We wanted a male and on the small side. This puppy is almost 17 weeks old and it finally occurred to me to ask his weight - he was only 2.25 pounds last week! I'm worried about this but the breeder says he's fine just small and expects him to be 8-9 lbs which I think is impossible.
My questions/issues:
1. Should I ask her to have her vet test his liver function? Heart? Anything in particular?
2. Should I be worried that I've asked to be introduced to other people who have her dogs and she hasn't responded to that? (She said people don't like their email addresses given out).
3. This seems to be a reputable breeder who is part of the local Havanese club in the Dallas/Ft Worth area. She's been very nice and responsive to all my questions but the size is worrying and the reluctance to connect me to others who own her dogs worries me.

Any advice?
Small size CAN mean liver problems, but it doesn't always. But I THINK liver shunts can show up at a later age (adolescence) too. I would talk to your vet about that part for more advice. Heart problems can also cause stunting. But you'd think that most vets could hear something wrong if it was wrong enough to stunt the puppy's growth. (again, check with your vet)

While it is true that not everyone who has one of her puppies may want to talk to prospective buyers, one would think there might be SOMEONE who would speak to you. OTOH, she sure wouldn't give you the contact info for someone who wasn't going to give her a good review, so I'm not sure how meaningful that contact would be anyway.

The puppy does seem very small for that age... Pixel was over 3 lbs at 9 weeks. She is just shy of 10 lbs as an adult.
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