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I have come accross two breeders and they seem legit to me, but wanted to check if any one of you know anything about them.
I already check tha HCA " in good standing" and the BBB in teir areas " no complaints, or too new "
One is lil gems pupps in Garden City , MO " 1 yr guarantee" ( 6 month old puppy)
the other one Sandy Creek Havanese, Stuart, NE" 2 years guarantee( 4 months old one).
One said their vet did not liked to be interrupted since he is busy, but provided 2 references.
The other one I am waiting for the response.
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The vet didn't like to be interrupted? hehe. I guess I can see that, but its kind of funny. My vet would never say that.

I would GO TO THE PLACE. I know its hard. Or I would talk to more than one person who bought from them and have photos etc. I would also ask to see photos of where the dogs are kept, the health records of the parents. And just because someone says there is a guarantee does not mean they will honor it. I am not saying they wont, they could be great breeders. Just use extreme caution.

Are they on the breeders referral list from the HCA?
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I have come accross two breeders and they seem legit to me, but wanted to check if any one of you know anything about them.
I already check tha HCA " in good standing" and the BBB in teir areas " no complaints, or too new "
One is lil gems pupps in Garden City , MO " 1 yr guarantee" ( 6 month old puppy)
the other one Sandy Creek Havanese, Stuart, NE" 2 years guarantee( 4 months old one).
One said their vet did not liked to be interrupted since he is busy, but provided 2 references.
The other one I am waiting for the response.
Any thoughts??
Thanks
Maria
I have never heard of either, but then there are many people breeding dogs that I haven't heard of. I agree with Melissa, ask to go see them. Do they show their dogs? Are they members of any dog clubs? What health testing have they done? How old are the mom and dad? How many litters have they had, the dogs I mean? There are many good breeders all across the country. You might consider contacting the local clubs listed on the HCA web site too.
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The good breeders I know will guarantee for life and want the dogs back should something happen to you where you cannot keep them. They screen the buyers extensively. The parents (dogs not people) are both health tested not by a vet for a health certificate but fully tested. The parents should have a CHIC number. You can check this on www.offa.org. My breeder also BAER tests her litters to screen for deafness before selling them. Breeders here in Florida (again that I know) are very afraid of selling puppies to the wrong people so they require a spay/neuter contract to pet homes, and really are picky about who they choose for a show prospect.
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Maria, you might want to remove your personal email address, cause this is a public forum and you might end up with tons of SPAM! People can just PM you via the forum. Just a thought.

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Good luck, Maria! yes, you want to use extreme caution when doing business with a breeder off the internet. I did with Ricky and have no regrets, but then we also chatted by phone and I did my homework in checking out her other dogs. There are many sites on the web, where you just know the breeders are doing all the health tests, they show and raise champions, they back up their words with solid contracts and are in it to better the breed. Try to do as much research as you can and ask them a TON of questions. If they are bothered by that or have vets that "don't like getting interrupted", well then... I'd look elsewhere.




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There are many varieties of guarantees. The important thing is what they include. Some require that you return the pup to get any money back knowing full well that most people will not return a pup once they have held it. Some guarantees are against any congenital health problem and will either take the pup back or give the buyer the money back to cover any condition up to the puppy's price. Some will give money back if the pup develops CD. I guess there are about as many different guarantees as there are breeders.

There are many other questions to ask to about such as health testing, soaped pictures of parents, etc., but you can tell pretty much about the breeder by their guarantee, recommendations from people who have their puppies, and a visit to the breeder's home is priceless.
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My aunt has a Havanese from Sandy Creek Havanese which she bought over the internet. As far as I know, she hasn't had any problems. However, the breeder is registered with the USDA, and a lot of times that can point to a puppy mill. Just keep doing your research.
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thanks a lot!! How did you find out about the USDA registration??
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I first learned about the USDA list from a Maltese forum. You can go to www.prisonersofgreed.org and click on the USDA link on the left to get the list.
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